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Candidates for the nomination for president of the Libertarian Party speak and answer questions at this event sponsored by the Tarrant County Libertarian Party, following the quarterly meeting of the Texas Libertarian Executive Committee, at the Norris Conference Center, Fort Worth, Texas. Moderator was Sharon Harris. Participants include RJ Harris, Carl Person, Gary Johnson, Scott Keller, R. Lee Wrights, and Bill Still.
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to the Texas libertarian presidential debate in Fort Worth Texas Spidey and
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I'm with the Tarrant County Libertarian Party and i'm a member of the state level transitive community of Texas and
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I'd like to start this off by recognizing a few people before we get
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going now first of all prior to this meeting we had another meeting of the
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state liver transitive committee of texts or select as an elderly desert such a select group of individuals
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a mat and this governing body is the
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roof that keeps the wheels on the tracks four of our state party if you're with select could you raise your hand what's
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a members of the Tarrant County Libertarian Party executive committee if
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you're on the TCL fees your typical peck
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or we way to us we certainly want to
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thank you for making us America that such a great success so thank you very much now I also like to recognize a few
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people that are always working hard to grow the Libertarian Party of Texas our chair of package
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if you're interested in learning more about joining the Libertarian Party of texts or even donating you know you can
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see one of these two people and what the the debate obviously this could
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not have happened without the generous contributions of those who truly valued
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liberties and to those that contribute it and make donations for this event thank you very much I'd also like to
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invite everybody see we have some tables of for the candidates and for some
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affiliated organizations that also have a lot of Liberty to please visit with
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Tom after this debate and talk to them about their wasted working together you
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can help preserve our freedoms lastly I need to do this ourselves if you have a
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mobile phone and iphone ipad whatever might make a noise like Barry please turn it off don't be the person that
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disrupts over there now I'd like to introduce our moderator Sharon Harris
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Sharon is president of the advocates for self-government it's a non-profit
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educational organization founded in nineteen eighty five which specializes in butchering communicate
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if you've ever taken the world's smallest political quiz to determine where you guys set on the norm chart I
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do have her and her organization to think for that sharon has been an active in the libertarian movement since the
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early 70s in 1972 she was a founding member of the Libertarian Party of
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Georgia the LPGA goodbye and I hey is a
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campaign manager for the lpga's at three public service commission candidates of an historic am an avid one current state
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wide about all access
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nineteen ninety-four she was one of the plaintiffs in a landmark lawsuit against the state of Georgia which challenged
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the constitutionality of Georgia's law which required candidates were off the office take the drug test the case went
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all the way to the US Supreme Court had won the case overthrowing that long
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straights the truly libertarian society as he hadn't is president she's a
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publisher of the email newsletter lawyer online chess readers in 104 countries
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and remember the advocates for self-government which a great organization they do make a little small
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political quiz like i mentioned operation politically homeless which is an invaluable tool
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restrooms activist and sponsor the likes of Liberty rewards program activism so
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everybody please welcoming great
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and welcome hard right turn on a great crowd this is a really people I think
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you're going to really enjoy this I wanted to just tell you a little bit about what my goals are for this my
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goals are for you to get to know these six people who are running for your nomination for president the first part
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of the questions will be designed for them to appeal to delegates for the National Convention who are going to be
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voting on we will be the techniques for libertarian party so you will get an idea of why you should vote for them and
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why you shouldn't have the better candidate the setup part of it will show you what they will be like if they argue
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candidate and that will give them a chance to answer the questions on all the major issues of the day and we're
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going to try to cover as many as we can I hope we will cover the one that means the most to you and so without any
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further ado when I wanted to our introduce our candidates I figured that after a recently being here hearing so
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much from the vivacious Mitt Romney and business and tutorial time you've heard
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some really good candidates I want to welcome the home stretch he'll be
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running on and if you wonder about the order we do from a nap and so the sort
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figures this alphabet for what I would like to introduce our candidate and have
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you work on that please please walk home from Virginia bill
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and from the Republic of Texas
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and hailing from Colorado Scott Keller
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great innocent people from all over the country coming to talk to you tonight and from new mexico governor gary Josh
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from New York Carl
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and from Oklahoma or Jay Harris
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we will begin the debate by allowing each gentleman to give a three minute opening statement of your choice so we
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will begin with mr. Harris hello everyone and thank you for that warm
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welcome longmore steak and just roll it
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applause along i think these it home hometown in that territory here so good
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for him but thank you so much for having us all out here today i appreciate you very much my name is rj harris i'm
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running for president united states from running is to restore freedom liberty
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the Constitution and the republic and to do those things what I intend to do as
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president is to in this country's policy of foreign intervention ISM one and I
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don't leave any back doors open for that I don't subscribe to things you know
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that are going to be posed to our candidates later on about what what about humanitarian in the
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lighthouse subscribe to me that I thought the article 1 section 8 of the Constitution which allows us to nominate
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and support privateers through letters tomorrow so that way individual citizens can can engage in the issues that are on
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their conscience internationally I intend to end the civil war on our
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citizens known as the war on drugs I intend to restore a sound monetary
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policy value max courtesy and end first I'd and federal reserve system as your president
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I will also you know go through the Department of Justice and use the
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Department of Justice to begin looking inwardly at our government and not outwardly towards we to people as
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another measure to try to restore that our individual living and our freedom
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welcome I will end the I will end so we've all seen going on and get on i
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will close down Gitmo because i think that it's a stain upon our nation's honor i think that i think that most
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people out there can see especially the folks here in this room that there's an unbroken chain between what began at
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Gitmo and with things like the patriot act to assassinating american citizens and or holding them without due process
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of equal protection that is now being allowed through the NDAA was just recently voted for our Congress as your
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president I will invent so there's a lot of things on the agenda you know also I
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also think that it's libertarians we need to lead the way we need to lead by example which means that if we're going
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to be arguing for an end to this to to our addition to deficit spending then we
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need to lead the way and say okay well we're going to run our campaigns in the black and we're not going to get in line with the Republicans and Democrats or
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for some type of federal funds for our campaigns or for our party that's not upon the citizens of this Republic to
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fund our party operations or two or to have how money taken from their taxes to
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pay for our campaigns we need to get out there and spread the message of Liberty we need to win over those boat motors
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would be with our messages and so I'm asking for all also for today I would like to ask you I
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don't know if there's a strong point but a serious please vote for me and thank you for this opportunity to speak to you
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mr. Karl Pearson hi my name is karl pearson and I'm the high school dropout
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my first business was at nine years old as a newspaper delivery boy in North
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Platte Nebraska I'm here because I believe that the Libertarian Party
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actually can be the majority party in the United States and I buddy tell you
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how this can happen I don't think this one that happened if we don't have something positive to offer to voters I
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think we need to offer more than libertarian principles we have to offer libertarian principles that are applied
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so that the people the voters can see what it is that we're offering we've got we have to show them what we can do with
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it so here's the game plan as I see it that the one that game plans is that
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I've set up a domain name which will have a website occupy the base 2012 calm
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and you can imagine what kind of activity and what we're trying to get into the debates between the Republicans
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and Democrats but knowing that I won't be allowed but outside on the answering the same questions you getting the
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public the real information that they need so I think that will be one helluva way that we can get a lot of posts doing
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that that's a unique way are going we can do it but here's really what we need to do we need to create jobs and show
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the public how we can create jobs my program the first three are free is to
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have the IRS declare the first three employees of any employer three oil regulation treated as independent
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contractors and that would mean the nation's million small business people self-employed would for the first time
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start hiring and we can truly expect 20 million people to be hired as number two you know into network of business to
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welcome to ban business I mean it's amazing thing that's very valuable and we can create jobs that way my idea that
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I've been pushing now for months of having the US government allowed the small business to raise capital without
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regulation has just been enacted by Congress I'm amazed but I'm the only one
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merging this and suddenly it's happening as I see it the Senate passed that I think the completed the house of
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representatives have passed it and therefore this what I'm doing has been affected in that respect we need to
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deregulate education that's the bane of our existence because we don't have the
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right a small business to treat people the way you need them to operate for us so we need deregulate it to what our
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small business to set up the training programs and we can create train people to fill the job for small business I'll
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be worth thousands of two thousand dollars a week so these are some of the things that I offer please vote for me
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when you have a chance thank you Gary Johnson I'm an athlete I've been an
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entrepreneur my entire life I was a two-term governor of New Mexico arguably
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I was the libertarian governor of new mexico for two terms under the guise of being republican how did that work out i
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got it son Heather right now people in New Mexico wave out here the whole five fingers not just one
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bad news the country's in trouble I think the dollar is going to collapse I
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think we need strong US dollar policies the good news is we can fix this we
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fixed this by slashing spending and stop printing money I'm making three promises
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as president united states one is I promise to submit a balanced budget to
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Congress in the year 2013 I promised to veto any expenditures and he builds
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where expenditures exceed revenue and did I mention that as governor of New Mexico I may have vetoed more
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legislation than the other 49 governors of my country combined I keynote 750
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bills while I was governor of New Mexico I'm also promising to advocate on the
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part of the Fair Tax I think it ends corporatism I think it ends crony
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capitalism it's ending the income tax it's ending corporate taxes abolishing
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the IRS I believe in the power of the individual I believe in marriage
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equality I think it is constitutionally guaranteed equality we need to stop
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torture and detainment without charge I oppose the death penalty I I aren't all
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these things constitutionally mandated I fundamentally support a woman's right to
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choose there isn't anything that I want to see the government fix when it comes to the Internet I support the
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abolishment of the department of education housing and urban development I'm open to the discussion of shutting
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down abolishing any federal agency let's not build a fence across the border
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let's make it as easy as possible for somebody that wants to come into this country and work to get a work visa I
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support a strong national defense not offense not nation-building not foreign
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aid and let's extricate ourselves immediately from all of our current military conflicts let's stop the probe
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drugs I believe in free markets that means no tariffs I'd like to see the
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Department of Homeland Security abolish that means no tsa i would like to repeal
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the Patriot Act I think there's two sides to being a libertarian one is
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civil liberties the other is balancing the checkbook about three months ago the
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ACLU came out with a report card on all the presidential candidates 24 was a
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perfect score Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum 0 out of 24 Newt Gingrich 4 out
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of 24 President Obama 16 out of 20 for
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Ron Paul 18 out of 20 for Gary Johnson 21 out of 24 I would love to see your
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boat I think I've got the fiscal side of this I think I've got the Civil Liberties sightings
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Helen edges her my name is Scott Keller i am from colorado family lives in
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Florida right now in Tampa they have not come because I started working over and
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over but what makes us all different here and you're going to hear a lot of
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the same basic tenets ending war maximizing liberty reducing the size of
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the federal government getting the federal government of our pockets so what is it that will distinguish any of
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us from any of the elements and is it even all that much of a necessity to
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distinguish I think in the end what needs to happen is whoever gets
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nominated as the Libertarian Party candidate they do watch the Libertarian
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Party members want them to do whatever that is now we all tend to believe in
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the libertarian tenants now my personal standout thing I believe is that I focus
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on the fundamentals and as Carlos a little while ago I think that we need to focus on as a 40 a way of breaking the
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distance between where we are right now and where the Republicans and Democrats are right now I think that we could be
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the number one party rather than a third floor and I believe that to do that we
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need to come up with some solutions libertarian based solutions government free solutions and we need to understand
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the fundamentals of the issues the root causes the issues that we're facing now
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one of my primary issues that I love to focus on economy but so many people just don't
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seem to understand what the root issues are revolving the economy the Federal Reserve the negative trade balance we've
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had since 1976 how are we ever going to get out of debt if we're not understanding what the root causes of
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the death happens to be now we're going to been spending that some very big deal it's a bad thing shouldn't be spending
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so much as a federal film we need to decentralize a lot of it but it is not
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the root cause of the federal debt national debt is not the root cause of
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why so many people are out of jobs it's not the federal government's job to
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regulate those things or create jobs local local oh I say that all the time
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hope we can resolve most of the issues that we're facing on a local basis it is
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not that hard to do if we fix the economic model number working under we
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return to a sovereign currency we get our trade balance workings and all of us
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work together to resolve the issues and put ourselves forward as a party that has solutions to these issues then I
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believe that we will fill the gap the people of America are looking for they
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are looking for solutions and we can provide mr. all right well only said
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this one I'm going to say it today why I come
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forward for debate and I stand before a larger crowd and keene state convention
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we've been to yet we're all seeking the
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top of two presidential nomination it's going to go away in November there's
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four more years if you choose alone people that did this people to put things like this together don't go away
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that's why we have things like this if I were able to do this it you deserve a great deal credit out John thank you
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very much to spend a run for president so I can leave you alone Tessa predict
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that woman one of the gifts of being dissed deep into the lineup if you wills i can say i want to do all the things
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you have said if I said norman solomon commerce or something else
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I will entertain for just a moment the fantasy that I that's right and all of
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you voted for me it's a longer friends and they tell all their friends and compress me this is my family's file the
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first thing I want to do is declare peace wool for some work that's what
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we've learned from all these wars we do now I'm not just talking about the morning and revisions of three Bobby
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let's just look at the more as we have here at home 1960s came along President
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Johnson from the great state of texas decided again and have a great society to have a war on poverty no more poor
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people took great you notice they got for you Jimmy Carter come along he told
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us how hard it is so we're going to help
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you create a total hero of an education to turn now functional illiterate ever since and the greatest disaster has ever
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come upon american people to drug war even people portray the drunk or admitting is a failure
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Claire piece I saw you join me insane I'm not more because their number save
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her
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let's just be hold still good afternoon ladies and gentlemen is great to be back
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in Texas as the but the benefit about going last is i'll use my word for
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something else and i agree with most of everything that's been said but there are some notable exceptions i think
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that's not as weak on your vocabulary word of the day is pero probed opians
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these are sentences which have a surprise ending Winston Churchill love them so here five libertarian para pro
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dokie ins number one the last thing I want to do is hurt you but it's still on my list number two war does not
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determine who is right only who is left number three going to church doesn't
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make you a christian any more than standing in the garage makes you a car maybe that's not a good number four do
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not argue with an idiot he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience and I'm when the women will
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never be going in until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer guns still think you're sexy so
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much for the humor aspect of this presentation some of you may not know much about me I started out as a
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newspaper editor in the late seventies early eighties got onto the missing Fort Knox gold story ITA and finally sold it
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to the history channel and that ran last februari in 1995 I produced the money
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masters which is consistently the top 25 documentaries of all time with 40
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million views on the Internet alone my latest film the secret of oz which I have a few of them back there for sale
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won Best Documentary of 2010's on the the monetary reform is yes that's my name area of expertise my latest book is
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called no more national debt i'll be speaking in malaysia later this year at their their annual conference on you see
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something very well known in this field the reason i'm trying to build this up is because i want you to believe what
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I'm about to tell you it's really important if you don't know anything else about if you don't listen anything
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else I have to say please listen to this within the last few months the central banks of China Japan the Bank of England
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of the European Central Bank have flooded all their markets with trillions of dollars of hot money this is pure
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money printing this is a coordinated strategy in my opinion designed to temporarily lift all stock markets fly
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to Rio elect Barack Obama news item last week a company called akt announced
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their biggest ammunition order ever coffee 450 million rounds of 40 caliber
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ammo the customer the Department of Homeland Security they don't have any cops in a penny police they don't have a
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military wide then there's the NDAA bill and damn few and Congress emacs to do
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anything about it then last month Obama is she due executive orders allowing the president to seize just about anything
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in the country of the Vela was necessary I think something bad is coming a worldwide financial collapse and the
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solution what we offer is an international go back money that will effectively bring
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national sovereignty to an end and that will crush humankind's 1000 year quest
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for freedom and returns to a state of perpetual zone them mark my words
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freedom is at stake we do welcome
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reactions from the audience some sometimes your debate you're asked to remain silent or something I'm more than
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glad for you to applaud or laugh or whatever is there something you like let the candidates know cuz I think that's
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really good idea also like to ask the candidates to please stay within the time frame so we can always just
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answered that would be that would be really good we're going to start this next round the next rounds are going to
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a one minute each and so you have to talk fast but they all it was we're
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going to begin this one with mr. karl pearson and what i would like to ask you is this your tell the libertarian
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delegates what are your goals for the campaign you are if you receive a
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nomination for the Libertarian Party would you tell me what your goals are from the campaign and even if you don't
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win the presidency what would be you consider a successful campaign to the
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Libertarian Party what goals for me are really to win the nomination and
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therefore be able to win the election the public is waiting for an answer we
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can create jobs we can or equal to their owns all of this with libertarian principles they're on my
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website want to look at my website a lot of videos on professionally done but the
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public is waiting and once they have somebody to save them from the Republicans in the Democrats whoever we
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nominate is going to be the person they would look at and if that is the right person then you can expect the boat and
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we can actually become 2014 mr. Garrett Johnson I wouldn't be here if I didn't
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think it was possible to win and here's how the win here's how that possibility occurs it's pulling at fifteen percent
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against Obama and Romney believing Romney will be the nominee being on the national debate stage with the two of
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them given the fact now that eighty-two percent of Americans are saying they would consider voting for a third party
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candidate there is that real possibility on a lesser level if the Libertarian
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candidate for president gets five percent of the general election vote something that has never happened before
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libertarian party will receive 90 million dollars in federal matching funds now I'll be the first one to stand
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up and say no to federal matching funds for all parties but this is how the system has been gained and don't for a
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second think that that isn't going to be a game-changing 90 million dollars in
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the 2016 election could bring libertarians for the point of second
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party that third part here
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Scott count I believe that the answer to this question is what i said in the introductions that we need to as a party
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become the party of libertarian solutions government free solutions we need to show the Democrats and
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Republicans they're tired of their candidates how we can give them what they want from the returning perspective
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without the government without overreaching with the federal laws
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federal regulations and all these things we can solve the job issue on a local
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level through the private sector through nonprofits through local PO box or local
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currencies there are a lot of things we can do on a local basis and a libertarian fashion so what I would want
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to do for the Libertarian Party is to present the Libertarian Party as a party
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of solutions rather than just a third-party French Canada fringe kind of a party and then lots of things we can
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do mr. Lee right oh my campaign should I
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receive a nomination of literary party we got out of my house have a party but
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all started out changing this country we
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need to be changed no a cabinet position building materials with real solutions
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true choices go of my campaign is to show America true loteria message that
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nobody has to be ashamed of nobody has to solve a massage or shape stuff wrong
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with my message and we have one risk peace prosperity for every human being
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home base of the earth what could be better than that yes I would present a
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solid saying the Train message people do that opportunity mr. bill
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still well to me in order to gain this regain prosperity here in this country
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you have to reinforce the rule of law financial community the rule of law is
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totally out the window I say we've got to stop the looting and start fossils
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gotta start and what I do on day one is I call from indictment of the people who
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have made the most money illegally off of this who are normally completely untouchable secondly I closed the IRS
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day one and initiate a consumption tax Carl denature my chief economic advisor
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i've calculated that by cutting a necessary programs and the agencies we
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can do that with an 18 point eight percent consumption tax whereas the FairTax i think is twenty-three percent
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a third we have to take back the money power we have to understand what that means every dollar in our pocket every
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dollar in our bank account is not credit it's created as an interest-bearing debt
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we've got to turn that around we've got to restore the money power to eat
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Oh your thoughts your campaign be mr. rj harris well the number one goal is to
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win and the way that we do that and I think that we can do that that is possible and the way that we do that is
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by nominating a candidate who will appeal to this awaking body politic that
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Ron Paul's been waking up for the last many years and many decades now and appeal to them with the candidate who is
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correct on the message and doesn't isn't just the candidate with the biggest name or a former status record but the
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candidate who is right on the issues of ending a foreign policy of intervention ism of ending the federal reserve system
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restoring a you know valuable currency of ending the drug or all these things
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that we've seen now being talked about in the in the mainstream / you know thank goodness for the first time in a
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long time if we nominate a candidate who goes an appeal to these masses who have in maths been responding to Ron Paul's
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message then we can expect to do not be able to compete as well as we could have and so that's my goal my goal is to put
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that is to when they out of the presidency by giving the waiting body politic a candidate than making them
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that they can support on these key issues
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but with regard to a vice president and I hope to have this problem but with
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regard to vice president somebody with a high profile somebody that might have a
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lot of money able to contribute to the campaign but most of all somebody that
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can articulate libertarian ideals and beliefs that would be the most important
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part all with regard to cabinet positions I've run for two political
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offices in my life this scheme my third governor of New Mexico re-election as governor of new mexico on all of my
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cabinet posts were basically applying apply and we're going to go through an
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interview process and we're going to pick the best and rapes now in that process the notion was it could
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completely successful at your job you won't have a job that's first and
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foremost so that would go unchanged and i think people saw that and really
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resonate in terms of vice presidential
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candidate is one anybody that's on the stage with probably d on the shortlist but I
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believe that this needs to go through a process as well just like area was just saying that I believe we need to learn
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the process of asking people to apply and asking people that whether they're
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high profile or not but they have the ability to answer these types of questions be able to present the
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vitarium one of you be able to present solutions and understand the issues
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because if if for some reason the person who gets elected to the White House gets
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killed and that person steps in in terms of cabinet members agree wholeheartedly
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with what Gary wants one of things i
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like how different i like being in the park skills you know we don't get to
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choose you are moving so big campaigns that we trust the delegates in
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our national convention to pair two people together to say to send a problem
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during message to the American people here in the exercise comfortable that my shortlist is anybody that's a true blue
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material all I would ask the delegates as you want me to be your present is give me a true return as a vice
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president things happen in this country cabinet positions three that really gone
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this far my thinking because I kind of stay out of Vincent's Hospital but you
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know my campaign mentor Tom still
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oh well I'm i go from karl denninger as
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Secretary of Treasury he runs a large economics log in the world is called Market Ticker he gets something like 300
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individual 300,000 residual figures from up I go for Lee writes for a secretary
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of defense attorney general and not go
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around Paul forehead of a bad just because I don't think we need the fat
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well hi I hope you have this problem as well and I agree with mr. Wright's
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completely that that we all be trusting this to our delegates and and just
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asking that you all not really put the weight on to try to take names you know you know somehow more popular than
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somebody else we ought to be focusing on one of those complimentary candidate that can help a spread this message this
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message of liberty of freedom and not get up on the not get up there on the debate stage with mr. Biden or in in a
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debate and given one constitutional run literature and that we then have to have to apologize for
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need that and so if i was you know able to look out their names on the delegates or asking delegates we're go out like
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you know I think Texas is going to be critical to winning winning this uh this
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presidential race so I would definitely look over here at miss Cathy glass did
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such a good job representing you all in the governor's race and you know for vice president and any one of up here
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also provides president or any indications I would see applications
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where people and these applications will be considered on how much they can show
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me that the position is not needed or whatever so but then priests argue over
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what really realistically is left take away the whole Office of Education Department of Agriculture you have a lot
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of problems there Department of Energy video homeland security but I think every agency has to be reexamined and
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doing by someone who knows what they're doing and really do a line item cotton
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upon that as the vice presidential candidate you know the invention will decide that and we
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obviously need a carrion but I think somebody who's going to sell how libertarian worse the public so that
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they will go to libertarian
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opportunity huge undecided voters have the
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opportunity to persuade me after both delivered here important for president
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and address their fear wasting here but
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your chance to do that right now well
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that's interesting with that mentality
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has been going on for a long time wasting votes making the wasting votes
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it is when it happens is because you voted for the person that you believe you're running point I think that what
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we need to do is just simply stick to our principles and we present as several
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reasons and sayings as they started that if we present our views in a way that
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people can understand and they can realize that the government will be
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taken out of their live without hurting them that I believe that we will not
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only prevent wasting the boat that we will actually benefit well I'll give a
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killing this large group of people the only wasted vote is about to slop cast
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so there's plenty of votes cast over here they're met Republicans are hanging themselves all the time because of the
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boat that they catch and it could tell us and we vote you its waste but still
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making a sensitive these undecided voters you don't you a motive this is
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our constituency folks we're not ever going to achieve littoral success by convincing enough Democrats Republicans
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the vocals we need to go ad with fifty percent of American people MacDonald bug that bud before it gave up an innate
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color student an 8,000 don't care cuz are smart they know if I go and vote will get the same thing
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why bother this is five to bother folks select carry party we're giving you a
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reason to bother so I started the million bookmarks when all I could you try to remember go to via Bogaerts calm
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this is an effort for us to get immediate vote libertarian presidential candidate no matter who it is everybody
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before if you go to go forward and quit come back one more time there's got to
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be at least 18 people out the other going to say stop the killing stop the screaming stopped the printing a bad one
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I lovely leave we don't print money we
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borrowed every single dollar in existence will stop that too because the
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Democrats are both in the pocket of the financial community the top 12
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contributors to Obama's campaign or the top 12 banks five of the six top contributors Romney's campaign are
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they've got a big banks you need someone who will pound on the table day and
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night about this economic issue and say stop a booty let's start prosecuting and return the money power back to we the
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people of the United States you know it's like it's like the choice between your public on Democrats like asking
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someone who are you voting for Lucifer Satan today
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I say that the real waste of a constituents vote out there is to
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continue voting in a manner that we've seen time and time again hasn't worked for decades and decades now the body
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politic has been asked to swing the pendulum to the left and to the right and that at doing so would change things
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but what have we see you just see more and more progressive socialism that comes out of told that the other two
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major parties I say other two major parties because we are major party we are the third largest party in the
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nation in mission act like and so I would say that that's the real waste of your vote is if you think you can cast
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it for somebody with a D or r by the day after they've proven time and time again and their part isn't proven time and
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time again for decades now they are responsible for the somewhere between 15 and 20 dollars that they are responsible
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for these interventions for they are responsible for the civil war on drug they're responsible for all these
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things troon on ways to your vote is to vote for a candidate and vote for party who is knocking in on any of that
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yes i'll try to speak up and they issue especially but how can we deal with the
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fear that a voter would be wasted vote now I convinced thousands of people to
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vote for me as a libertarian candidate for president and they never really say issue at all but what I've been telling
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them is that the Libertarian Party through they will show how and we will create jobs and the public will will
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have prosperity that the jobs and the prosperity area we've got to deregulate small business so that we can provide
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those jobs picture because remember the military we don't want those jobs the government we don't want those jobs and
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the big business has any cousin singing the jobs overseas all you have left is me the representative of offices you got
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to free me up and allow me to create these jobs the public realizes that sell them on that and you'll get there
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motivating the election I think the
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Libertarian Party embraces the philosophy of the majority of Americans that's the notion of being fiscally
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conservative and socially tolerant so given that most people have this philosophy let's identify the problems
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or bankrupt let's identify the solutions we need to have we need to slash
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spending and then you have to have a
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resume to suggest that you would actually dogged Lee pursue the problems and the
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that go along with those problems I think I've got that resume waste of vote
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I guarantee you that a vote for either one of the old party candidates and
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that's excluding around fall in Casey's the Republican nominee which I don't think is going to be the case but waste
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your vote a vote for either of the two old parties is a guarantee government
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for years from now will be bigger and more interesting
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this is CM people out there who don't
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have a job this economy is horrible and everyone has an answer to how to help us
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and help people hit jobs i want you to put your answer is today that's good
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question and I found your research the
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best way the president the united states can create jobs start fire I know it
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sounds kind of silly but it's true now dr. marks done research it's outlining
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her local book healing our world for every bureaucrat for every regulate or
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loses their job and 150 private-sector jobs are created so I'm just we'll see
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how many private sector job dr. Baker fire otherwise the only thing the president
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gives you to create jobs and get government out of the way president's job is not to create jobs I'm jobs
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presents to be okay well sard sound like
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a broken record but not monitor before we have no chance of successfully to bring jobs back to this country you know
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how much the trade deficit is does anyone know but last month's trade deficit was 48 billion dollars in a
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month that's five hundred billion dollars per year that's a hole in the
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bottom of the bathtub continuously drained does anybody know what the interest payments alone on the national
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debt r / M this year by another five hundred billion dollars that according
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to the CBO the Congressional Budget Office by 2029 will exceed 1 trillion
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dollars this is a totally unsustainable path we can't have a trillion and a half dollars off the bottom and they don't
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say that we're going to continue to create jobs we have to solve those two problems right away
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right off I do agree with Bill on on the unsoundness of our monetary policy being
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a very central piece of this puzzle and you know getting control of our monetary
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popped in restoring an article 1 section 8 a constitutional currencies is
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paramount to helping us restore our economy and our job but I would also respond that is most certainly not to
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continue some type of stimulus program which the president has been pushing another 500 billion or so in stimulus I
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would just say that you know that was well it's going to fix the problem then you know the 15 trillion were already in
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debt would have nobody out of work but clearly we all know that this this artificial you know creation of money or
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this is the stimulus packages they don't work they don't create jobs what does create jobs as mr. Pearson has pointed
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out a small business and we need to get the federal government out of the way we need to get the federal government to stop spending money that it doesn't have
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and we need to get the federal government stuff impoverishing our children and also to reduce the
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regulation so that they small business can grind up and put America back to work
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I represent small business that's all that I represent and small business can
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hire because today since internet is too technical for me to hire somebody out of
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college or what they're doing it doesn't help me at all if somebody comes to me as a disc Avenger I need to have people
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who are trained in technology and with the colleges and universities and high schools at the last year should be
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training people like that it only costs a thousand dollars a year to give a good poster edge with type course i know is i
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created a paralegal bid we should train these people and we will have all the jobs in America that we want we will be
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demanding that we have immigration to come in and fill be unfulfilled jobs this is the potential this is what we
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need to do with this will solve the problem I started a one-man handyman
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business Albuquerque in 1974 and grew it to become New Mexico's largest construction employer over a thousand
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employees early in this presidential campaign they came out with a report on who had the best history when it came to
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job creation well that was me a my response to what did i do I didn't do
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anything government doesn't create jobs the private sector does but I control
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all the agencies I pleaded all the words and commissions in essence i controlled all rules and regulations and they got
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better on a daily basis from the standpoint of taking less time and less money to have to comply with those rules
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and regulations I think enacting the Fair Tax 0 corporate tax zero income tax
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cost neutral over a very short amount of time I think it's the answer when it comes to our exports I think it's the
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answer when it comes to tens of millions of jobs when you have a zero corporate tax rate environment and more than
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anything all this creates is certainty something that the President of the United States can do
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right off the bat I say I agree with Lee and Bill the most here and I believe
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that we need to get the monetary policy under control we need to make sure that we get the bank's out of picture and we
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need to get the federal government out of the way local local local is how we create jobs it's not the federal
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government's job to create jobs so and in terms of taxes I think we can get rid
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of taxes all together under control when
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we get the government size under control what's the purpose of attacks tax
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basically is just taking back from the people what the government is supposed to be putting into circulation in the
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first so to me is that so these big
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signs that said Kim the fan in the bed in the bed apparently there's a book
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called back in the van and I just wondered what on earth is this mean and this is something that you when I when I
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first produced the money masters after the first cut a lot of an economics professor take a look at it be sure I
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wasn't too far as I said okay I've done a report all my life I know how to get in touch with professors called
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university press office so I'm going to shoot footman I'm going to go from Milton Friedman make a long story short he looked at the first cut he calls me
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back and says boy if you in the bed and don't do anything about fractional reserve lending you've done nothing
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that's really important it's not the Fed the Fed is just the curtain hiding
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making making it look like that the Fed the government is controlling the banks the Fed is not part of the government
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the Fed is part of the bank's you have the fox and control of the chicken house it's not a bad it's the bank's you have
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to take back the monetary power from the banks and just to correct something article 1 section 8 does not refer to
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constitutional money that's a prohibition only on the states are article 1 section 10 is what we need to
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look at very well mr. still I agree with
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the law 20 just said and as president I won't and I mentioned in my opening remarks I bought that return first and
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the reason why I say Audie does give American people have a right to know what's been going on with their monetary
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policy and with their money even though as mr. still pointed out it's being done through you know what is essentially
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private bankers so I'm going to audit that first and then that way the American people will see what's going on
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and there will be a drastic call in support for then ending the Federal Reserve we have to show them what's been
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going on with you have to show the American People that they are getting raw offline and I
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think the way we do that is by having the department of justice under the most libertarian Attorney General ever going
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in and you can investigate without reserve and then we will go ahead and like I said as president I will gain the
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Federal Reserve System and restore masala monetary I'm going to take my
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brightest of water not the answer that question directly but to give you something else as related to it that's the way me about the issue and that is
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that the cost of education as you know is maybe 20 30 40 50 thousand dollars a
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year but actually you that isn't lost I own the school over 18 years at the post graduate level the cross the
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construction is a thousand dollars a year you have no regulation think of that you deregulate higher education and
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you can eliminate this major problem that indicated as questions about the
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students saying anything the bed no you have to end the regulation of higher education I would end the Federal
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Reserve have given the chance but that's Congress giving me the chance to end the Federal Reserve what we need to do is
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stop printing money if we ended the Federal Reserve tomorrow Treasury would
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still provide it feels like they did before they have a central bank and just like other countries in the world print
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money that don't central bank what we need to do is bring about full transparency to the Federal
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Reserve which ending the Federal Reserve brings about in lieu of not ending the Federal Reserve we need to audit the
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Federal Reserve strong US dollar policies not weak US dollar policies and
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when you get to the Federal Reserve's mandate which originally was priced stability which was a strong US dollar
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couple now with what i think are weak dollar policies which is full employment
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do you have us in the situation right now of zero interest rates and why do we
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have zero interest rate because we're on the verge of a monetary collapse well I
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agree with that last statement we are monitoring collapse but I want to ask
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you something if we are of the frame of mind of auditing then who came up with
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the rules and the approaches for first place how are we going to audit
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these bankers if they already know how to hide it we I agree with Bill we need
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to end the peasant need to end fractional reserve lending need to get
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the bank's out of money creating business without that we're going to be
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with 30 40 trillion dollars worth of that before you know I don't know about
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the rest of voluntary is already collapse so agile money's worthless now
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into the bed is a funny thing to say these day obvious they won't be
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collected signs for sale present can't say because campaign I will stand before
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you seeking the hot topics in this land of I can tell you how to do something that I can't that is a mission
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accomplished letters what i would do is support and lobby for repealing all
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legal tender laws return precious vows to the currency market for the long it
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would be long that the Federal Reserve controller because nobody wants money that's worthless it's not worth the
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money sup working papers printer rather have Hartman so for the taxon were so that would be Muslim
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I just don't understand you don't care about family values and at all I see you
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wanted to smoke though and also let anybody who wants to marry each other
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let them marry would you please tell me how that possible mrs. Kennedy the
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founders of this Republic put a lot of faith in the citizens and we the people
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to regulate ourselves to be free to live free and have liberty and if we wanted
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to influence the life choices of our fellow citizens to do through do so through the power or example not for the
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force of oppressive legislation which does nothing but strangle freedom legislation is the opposite of freedom
1:02:55
and mr. handy what do you suppose happens when the other side tanks power when that when the social conservatives
1:03:02
are lobbying for these type of measures but then when the other side when a social liberals when power that they
1:03:08
want to try to use the president's that you said so they go out and you know force all of their social viewpoints on
1:03:15
people now you're going to be the victim of that so I'm an advocate for stopping all that I'm an advocate for allowing
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Americans to have the freedom so long as they're rather than fridge someone else's life liberty or property
1:03:36
why not opposing these laws along the way we've wound up now where anything
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goes you can throw people in jail forever Kelly's phone for even mark meant for assassination we've gone that
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far a question you haven't lay down the goal no we don't want any interference at all and even though you may not like
1:03:54
somebody's the rules that would allow people to do certain things you don't like at least you're clean odd ability
1:04:00
but don't get don't start regulating is it that slippery slope
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well this isn't a hypothetical Sean asking what do you tell your kids if
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they want to smoke pot well what I tell my kids first and foremost is that I love my kids Sean and I'm sure that you
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love your kids too and so do you want them subject to the criminal justice system for choices than fifty percent of
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a graduating class of the year 2012 will make the decision to smoke pot I suggest
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you that they are anything but criminal so when it comes to my own kid shawn i
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want to be as informative as i possibly can I want to communicate to them that I love them so that if they find
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themselves in a situation where they become impaired give me a call first and foremost I'll come pick you up no
1:04:58
questions asked because I love and then Sean with regard to marriage equality I
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think that it's constitutionally guaranteed and how about the notion of social tolerance than you and I should
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make decisions that only you and I should make as long as we're not putting anyone else in harm's way
1:05:32
tested that it seems them the best that I can and let them make their own
1:05:38
choices that they make wrong choices they learn from them and move on it's
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not the federal government's job to be doing any kind of regulating any kind of
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intrusive behavior into private people's lives first of all shown
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is anybody here unfamiliar with my stance on I made it very clear this war
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kills people not the drugs the drugs aren't killing me the war we take them
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in expensive plans and turn them into extravagant problems or organized crime
1:06:43
children are killed each other under the money they can make all the drugs they're not killing each other over the drugs government has the place of tell
1:06:50
us what we can put in our bodies that shall learn their lesson for prohibition and last century does anybody think that
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George mark watch the neda marriage license
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like most most of the divisive issues in this country can be answered with a really simple response and that's that's
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a tenth Amendment issue in other words this type of thing should be the power should be d consolidated and pushed down
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to the states that's what the Tenth Amendment says anything not specifically mentioned in the Constitution is pushed
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down to the states or We the People it's a tenth Amendment issue let them figure out that the Tenth Amendment means what
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we're doing with the drug war is empowering Mexican Mafia by giving them a monopoly that they send tens of
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billions of dollars every year eventually this is going to come back and bite us and just one one quick
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response I'm redundant but I want everybody to understand this we don't print money we borrow every dollar into
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existence whoever says we print money doesn't know what they're talking about
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the i went to pennsylvania at one of the meetings of the military rd and settle
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for more of the participants were wearing guns and it scared me you know
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i'm not going to take the one here you have the freedom knowing that people are out there that can protect themselves
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with fu and you're not going to be worried as much when you have the right to carry a gun you will have the option
1:08:54
to carry gun and I believe we should
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well I don't think that constitutionally speaking the Second Amendment would be
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any clearer the Hun in the camp it believes very simply that if you outlaw
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guns outlaws will have guns running for
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governor of new mexico in 1994 what was a cutting-edge issue in 1994 was
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concealed carry it wasn't as it is today but then in the primary i was asked
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about concealed carry and i gave my unequivocal support to conceal carry
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believing that it bleed to overall less gun violence that got me headlines for
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what I just thought was a common sense common sense response to that question I
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am NOT the guy that's going to legislate the caliber
1:10:02
of a bullet or the number of bullets in the clue well i personally believe that
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guns don't kill them people kill people and if you take guns away from they'll
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find another way so for the constitution's 2nd amendment is gary was
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just saying it's not the federal government's duty or responsibility or right to come and tell us what we can
1:10:39
and cannot do if it's not in the Constitution collected every go face it
1:10:58
you're today velvet of all that all the guns are gone i baseball bat with your
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hands folks came killed abel with a rock
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for his people who do the killer
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greatest things we can do to defend ourselves is to arm ourselves that is a
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great equalizer i want to take on somebody in a hand-to-hand combat the size of our pup he's my friend but he's
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going to take me down
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well i started the nra programs i was in the fourth grade an actual Air Force
1:12:06
Base Montgomery Alabama I'm not always respond and just say what I could add
1:12:12
would be what part of the Second Amendment snow abridgement do you not understand i'm a complete supporter of
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second that i will remember that we're
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talking to rachel maddow mr. so a little deeper and say that when i put demobilized from Afghanistan here this
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last time in august in 2011 i did so within sight of the building where those horrific shootings took place it for fit
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and remind her that that board would shooter did not pull out to the rifle range for all the soldiers would have
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been armed to the teeth to committed shootings he went to an area where everybody is disarmed to do what he was
1:12:58
doing this school shootings that have happened shooters are going to places where they know they're no one's arm and
1:13:04
then the response time will take a while so they can kill as many people as possible and if just one of those
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students that one of those colleges had been armed they might have been able to defend themselves and the other
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innocence or
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that even just the barest reading of the Federalist Papers will reveal they it
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wasn't just for our self protection that we were given second amendment was to defend ourselves from a tyrannical
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government and that's why is your president nothing more than exercise
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what would you do about that well let's
1:14:10
recognize first and foremost that Iran is an unintended consequence of taking
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out Iraq that was their only concern with Saddam Hussein in Iraq and what are
1:14:21
they going to do to us today well we take up some Hussein in Iraq and now we're dealing with Iran does Iran pose a
1:14:29
military threat to the world to my knowledge they do not pose a military
1:14:34
threat to the world and if we're going to bomb Iran we're looking at a two year
1:14:41
maintenance bombing program because it's not going to port them from developing a nuclear warhead a little bit deeper or
1:14:48
in a different place and aren't we after the hearts and souls of citizens of Iran
1:14:53
and isn't our bait which a leadership of Iran what's going to happen when we bomb Iran aren't we going to make a hundred
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million enemies that perhaps we would not have made otherwise as president of
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the United States I would urge Israel to knock bomb Iran
1:15:15
I agree with Gary and after that we as
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the united states of america with constitution and the rules that sets form we should not be sending military
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troops anywhere without congressional approval and commercial approval is
1:15:37
supposed to come from the people so if the people are saying don't go over there then we should not be going over
1:15:44
period dramas be great yep sitting
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president biden was giving off
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since he was doing that great honor and proceeded to bob six times we're
1:16:15
thinking about doing it again best way to stop a war don't started in the first
1:16:22
place because once it gets started you can't get it stopped now dealing with
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here really is a foreign policy issue or also problem a great problem that the
1:16:35
United States has been involved with you being here particularly the Middle East we even try to drive countries into
1:16:41
being a piece of each other what did we use with this project munitions and
1:16:46
subsidies guns and money and it occur to
1:16:52
someone that we might become an incentive by using these things as our robbery for the war bear to continue
1:16:58
because nobody wants the money or the guns to text STOP this would stop a war
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I don't think I'm going to prove on any
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of this I mean all these answers have been great other than to say that if we
1:17:21
get out of Asia then I think we something happens that maybe nobody's counting on that works to our benefit
1:17:27
that's there's a natural antagonism between Russia and China if we're there bombing and trying to nation build that
1:17:33
antagonism cannot build if we move out the mashed agonism starts to work again and that work start damage
1:17:50
the American people with much with much liability and credibility on this issue that a interventionist foreign policy
1:17:58
has made us weaker it has not made us stronger it has spread our all-volunteer
1:18:03
military around the world to defend everyone else is bordered by our own it is Granderson two massive amounts of
1:18:09
national debt which even even the former's watches chat Staff Admiral Mullen to admit it become a national
1:18:16
security issue of i buy our debt so this for policy interventionism has got to
1:18:21
stop and i think i can deliver that message to be american people but furthermore does that mean that we have
1:18:27
to disregard our defense know what does not we can look to the example of our founding president Thomas Jefferson and
1:18:33
George Washington of peace through strength you're at home and in international waters we make sure that we stop all the foreign aid make sure
1:18:40
the cornea is not going into actors like Iran so that way they can use that money
1:18:45
that we borrowed against us so folks that's what I'm saying is that is that we need to stop this num policy of
1:18:50
intervention ism and as mr. Wright point out we don't start wars we defend this Republic
1:19:02
words just another another way of talking about the industrial itary
1:19:07
industrial complex we need to talk about going to war or doing this doing that and expanding our military but it's just
1:19:14
for the benefit of those people that are making munitions or selling munitions all over the world they're expanding the
1:19:21
making reach fortune to take it away from us to people the principle is no more more so don't even start talking
1:19:28
about what more would you and enter into you don't you just you defend yourself vigorously with uncle starting in where
1:19:49
everyone would be covered in everyone worried disease spray and have
1:20:03
on earth you're gonna do didn't these
1:20:12
greenport just do arguing about that they unconstitutional begin with and did
1:20:19
health care actually improve for anybody I don't think but my position on
1:20:27
healthcare as well as just about any they're not constitutionally mandated
1:20:34
responsibilities for the federal government is to let the local level handle it let the private sector handle
1:20:40
it and I just was watching something one I think was on CNN last night I don't
1:20:47
know what channel with us but they were comparing our health care system the
1:20:52
government-run health care system and the private health care system and they were showing that the the treatments
1:20:58
done and the private sector were much more cost-effective and they were more effective if we're getting your faster
1:21:06
and better than what the government says is that groups we shouldn't be going
1:21:11
down to pj i walk said think not here
1:21:32
way the government makes fries by regulating tell anybody what to do which
1:21:37
adds cost doctor visits with treatments for everything let's think about
1:21:46
government government agencies we're talking about a body of people in campus
1:21:51
when you're at the local mall in your able body why would we trust these same individuals take care of us what we're
1:21:58
sick and can't take care of ourself there is no incentive for them to do a good job there's only incentive in them
1:22:04
for money you making it cause as long as they feel like is this nobody should be
1:22:11
involved in your healthcare decisions besides you at your casa not your trash not a politician an agency not a group
1:22:20
nobody you and your doctor that's it he's coming out way you'll be able to afford your own
1:22:31
I just got an email about four days ago so sorry I don't have that email here to
1:22:38
quote some of the unbelievable things that are in this health care bill I believe it's on page 2 52 for example
1:22:45
that do you know that age 76 if Obama's health care bill holes Supreme Court
1:22:51
scrutiny that it will not allow payments for chemotherapy or advanced cancer
1:22:58
treatments after 876 this lady shaken I believe here in the medical community aren't you there are things in that bill
1:23:06
that are just unbelievable the Obama health care bill is going to go actually
1:23:11
the way we've got it today is is not incredibly bad I mean if you're really are destitute you're still treated at
1:23:18
energy are we don't have such a bad system it definitely needs to be tweaked but the Obama bill is just you aren't
1:23:25
going to believe it when you actually start doing the best I mean we'll out
1:23:36
there thanks that a that a glance to last 100 years of failed progressive
1:23:41
socialism at the federal level is somehow going to magically change with this health care bills I mean we've seen
1:23:47
it time and time again the federal government is completely incompetent to deliver individual private and social
1:23:52
welfare so if you really do care about the health care needs or the poverty needs or any of these other social needs
1:23:59
out there then the most obvious thing to do is to get the federal government out of it because they proven with more than
1:24:06
a century of in confidence that they handling and as it applies to help here just look at the VA hospitals look how
1:24:13
they're run and ask yourself if you would want to be a patient there if you would want to have to go to an all
1:24:18
government hospital and I suspect that the answer for most of you is no now I also agree though that I believe there's
1:24:25
president the president has a lot of power to stop this article 2 of the Constitution says that the president has
1:24:31
to take note to preserve her protecting has been the Constitution of the United States and that's all gone above regular legislation that's passed by the
1:24:37
Congress which is why as president I will not enforce the law care mr. Pierce
1:24:48
medical care is really no more than another war on this case sickness it's
1:24:53
just not given that name it it's just one more war that the government is created all it's a foo dog will take
1:24:59
education five percent of the cost of going to college is really over they cost to get the education nineteen out
1:25:06
of twenty dollars is spent wasted Lee for regulation I think there's a great
1:25:12
degree of that in the medical care situation let's get the medical situation back to the doctors left a
1:25:19
moment on practices instead of working for the insurance carriers but a moment
1:25:24
on practice let us have more care at the local level and we can solve this problem this is jealousy I'm promising
1:25:36
to submit a balanced budget to Congress a near 2013 that will detail all forty
1:25:43
three percent reduction in Medicaid and Medicare before anybody falls off their
1:25:49
chair with regard to a forty three percent reduction in either of those categories it's important to point out
1:25:54
that if we don't balance the federal budget we're going to find ourselves without any health care at all so as
1:26:01
governor of New Mexico I oversaw the reform of Medicaid in New Mexico health care to the poor changed it from a
1:26:07
fee-for-service model too pure model set up better healthcare networks save hundreds of millions of
1:26:14
dollars I believed at the time that if the federal government wouldn't were to have blocked granted the state of New
1:26:20
Mexico forty-three percent less money done away with all the strings in the mandates that I could have effectively
1:26:26
overseen the delivery of healthcare to the poor in New Mexico I think the same model applies to Medicare 50
1:26:34
laboratories of innovation and best practice the federal government has to give it up to the states during the
1:26:48
Republican debates commerce 11 Paul call for an end to the income tax and he said
1:26:54
you would replace it with nothing I'm wondering if you agree with that as your tax policy and if you would explain what
1:27:02
your tax policy would be if you were president we're going to begin with mr. White's tax policy my tax quality be
1:27:14
stopped did everywhere we can of course
1:27:20
no this is another touchy area for the president I know which area is not trying to pull this way they do get
1:27:26
these kind of question and then the guys were present answered if I can you do something about the present a new
1:27:32
venture taxi he can't go room he came raisin he can't come he came to a room
1:27:38
that's what Congress is for unfortunately what president can do is
1:27:46
hope Congress responsible for spitting and probably use the money that they steal from us by some tax or whatever
1:27:53
this whole concept that somehow this magic tax is going to you know Gus in
1:28:00
our economy whatnot doesn't work that way you're removing well from people who
1:28:06
are the economy when you tack something we need tax breaks and we need a slash
1:28:12
suspending stop us finding that we're doing that would be my tax laws
1:28:20
it's an arrest and did you know that the start of the 1900s said the US government was funded ninety percent by
1:28:28
just two types of taxes that's tariffs and excise taxes of course an excise tax would be what we were talking about a
1:28:34
consumption tax today whether I haven't seen this figure from dr. Paul that he
1:28:41
can completely eliminate the income tax unless he's talking about completely replacing it with a consumption tax and
1:28:47
of course thats that's what I do you
1:28:54
know I didn't think I'd see the moment come when I have something disagree with mr. right so I'm like it is a gives
1:28:59
arrived hardly I do think that President can stop there the income tax and I
1:29:05
think the president can do it by refusing to collect it the President does not have to make himself party to
1:29:12
slavery upon we the people because that's what it is when the government comes and takes your personal your
1:29:17
personal labor okay they're saying that they own you and they can take that labor away from you and that's the very
1:29:23
definition slavery and the president under article 2 of the Constitution does not have to make yourself hard to that
1:29:28
he could say that i'm not going to collect the personal income taxes of Congress you need to give you something that's constitutional and that does not
1:29:33
promulgate slavery and as president that's exactly what i will do
1:29:42
mr. Pearson the first step is to simplify the code and get rid of all the billions hundreds of billions of dollars
1:29:49
a giveaway that are contained in the approach simplified reduce the costs of
1:29:56
government so that the money that's needed is less you've got to you've got
1:30:05
to actually change things I think the campaign financing reform just allow
1:30:10
candidates to run for office could have a free franking privilege postage and access to the broadcast media and if we
1:30:18
allow that we won't need to raise money and we will have reform because we will have reform people being voted into
1:30:24
office I think that's our solution first
1:30:31
attack as governor of New Mexico not one penny of tax went up over eight years
1:30:36
not one cent that had never happened before and that included a cigarette tax but I made a promise that not one penny
1:30:43
of tax would be increased the key here is to slash spending something that has
1:30:49
never happened before I'm promising to submit a balanced budget to Congress a 1.4 trillion dollar reduction in federal
1:30:56
spending I also promised to advocate on the part of really what I'm supporting is a consumption tax I think it's fair
1:31:03
it's its revenue neutral I'm embracing the fair tax because I think they have
1:31:09
millions of followers and for all of the problems associated with a consumption tax they've addressed those issues it
1:31:16
would be terrific if we got to be able to debate the merits of a fair tax but
1:31:22
ideally there is no tax I just think if you implement one federal tax
1:31:27
away with the income tax corporate tax tax withholding the IRS that that goes
1:31:33
down the road a long way to identify one federal tax that if it gets raised we
1:31:38
become outraged the pressure is going to be to reduce this is one of my favorite
1:31:49
times I say get rid of taxes all together I believe this pen again if we
1:31:57
follow what Bill was saying earlier about getting monetary policy right getting rid of the Federal Reserve
1:32:04
getting the bankers out of the system getting the distribution of new cash
1:32:09
right and getting that out of the hands of the bankers then we can address what
1:32:16
taxes really are as i said earlier theft which is if the Congress is doing his
1:32:23
job and creating the money regulating and of course making sure that's not too
1:32:28
much because we don't want inflation that kind of thing but if the government
1:32:33
is doing what the Constitution says for to do then it won't need taxation to
1:32:38
fund its operations and then if we bring in to the play of what these other guys
1:32:43
were saying about reducing the spending out of the federal government and down to the local level then the whole
1:32:51
problem is resolved no taxes
1:32:59
before we have our closing statements I'd like for everyone to just answer the question do you think these guys did a
1:33:05
good job
1:33:17
you can have all of our ministry questions every night I'll see it let me
1:33:22
see a box and so forth we're now going to give each gentleman three minutes to give a closing statement and we will
1:33:30
begin with mr. Steele my thanks to the
1:33:35
Tarrant County LP for putting this very elaborate meeting together I know how much work it is to pull off so how do we
1:33:42
fix our economy monetary form consists of two great pillars completely
1:33:47
eliminating the ability of governments to borrow as number one number to eliminate the ability of the biggest
1:33:54
banks to control the quantity of money in the system this is known as fractional reserve lending the money
1:33:59
power must be returned to the people to whom it properly belongs the problem
1:34:04
isn't right now every dollar in your pocket is created as an interest-bearing debt by bankers and not the government
1:34:11
the government does not bring money the only thing that the government does print or coin our coins that's actually
1:34:18
only debt-free money in existence also letting the so-called free market fix
1:34:24
this has not worked the big banks have been completely without effective regulations in the past decade hasn't
1:34:31
worked the money power is the most awesome and important power of any sovereign nation we the people have to
1:34:37
take that back now i'm not talking about giving Congress the power to print money without restriction every monetary
1:34:44
reform ur knows that that will only result in massive overspending before every election as politicians try to
1:34:50
appease their local constituencies we say give control over the quantity of
1:34:56
the federal money to a monetary authority composed of members of each of the 50 states as per the Tenth Amendment
1:35:04
but imagine this world one in which a nation could not borrow then if
1:35:09
politicians wanted to spend they would have to suffer the negative political consequences by raising taxes
1:35:16
immediately how much do you think they'd be overspending then not very much finally mr. Johnson will be the nominee
1:35:23
this year so I can no longer ask supporters to donate money and I myself probably will not be at the convention
1:35:30
in Las Vegas why can't I support mr. Johnson first he has said repeatedly that he believes it government borrowing
1:35:37
his quote is borrowing is good printing his back he doesn't understand that all
1:35:43
money comes from death only during quantitative easing does money actually come into the system debt free
1:35:50
furthermore I believe in prosecuting the people who created the bowl I would
1:35:56
order my Justice Department on day one to start the prosecution's at the top those who stole the most money would be
1:36:03
the first indicted this issue with the a winner with the American people and hit
1:36:08
is the only issue that will be a winner with the American people the nominee seems to be an apologist for the big
1:36:14
banks his quote was they didn't commit any crimes they just made some bad decisions I would point out if the
1:36:21
crimes are well documented by Professor Janet top tavakoli in her new book and they continue to this day
1:36:34
mr. Harris well thank you to the Texas Libertarian Party and thank all of you
1:36:40
from coming out for coming out to hear hear us debate today I would like to thank my fellow candidates for sharing
1:36:46
the stage with me a student of honor it really has been an honor to share the state of you and to share this campaign trail of each and every one of you and I
1:36:53
would also like to end by asking for all of you for your support you know these
1:36:59
campaigns it takes a lot of support it takes a lot of effort it takes a lot of money to to get around and do what we've
1:37:04
got to do and I'd like to ask you all to visit my website rj harris 2012 com we
1:37:09
have a fundraiser that's going on up for april fifteenth and I'd like to ask as many of you as possible to participate
1:37:15
that so that we can go to the convention and just to also add this and say you know we have to nominate a candidate who
1:37:23
is right on the message on each and every point you know Ron Paul has been fighting out there for years and years
1:37:29
and years and years and it's never mattered to us whether or not we thought he was going to win what mattered is
1:37:34
that he was right on the message and she that he spoke the truth to power and then he said were fed up with the
1:37:40
infringement of our liberty and we're not going to take it anymore and we all rallied around behind that what a
1:37:45
fortunate looks like dr. Paul will not win the GOP nomination and folks if this party if our party does not nominate a
1:37:52
candidate who is right on each and every one of these issues who is right on ending the interventionist foreign
1:37:57
policy who is right and ending the Federal Reserve who is Right knitting the drug war on all these different
1:38:02
things that we mentioned here today then we can expect not to have the Liberty
1:38:08
movement support for our eventual nominee so folks please do not be just brought in to make your decision on
1:38:14
who's got the bigger name or the bigger former office please make your decision on who has been right on this message
1:38:21
who has been right on these issues and who can carry this banner of Liberty forward for each and every one of us and
1:38:27
who can go on these on television and go on the debate stage with the other two eventual nominees and
1:38:33
not apologize bro message convince the American people of the rightness of the
1:38:38
liberty message and rather than half the couch it for for for another group or to
1:38:43
try to sail people it's not right in this situation whatever we ought to be no saying to the American people know we have the best message in here's why and
1:38:50
I think that you've seen an opportunity you see our candidates up here doing that today and so that's what I would
1:38:55
like to ask you in clothing to do with your votes is don't think you know the
1:39:01
question came earlier about the way your vote well that doesn't just apply in the general election it's also going to
1:39:07
apply here if you vote for the candidate who is right on all these issues who you know in your heart who you have said to
1:39:14
yourself is right all these core principle issues that is not a ways to vote because you will then put up the
1:39:21
best candidate and the best vice presidential candidate to take on the other the socialist from the other two
1:39:27
larger parties and went over the American people to the rightness of our ideals and give us a mandates of govern
1:39:34
moving forward and not just to continue the status quo
1:39:44
mr. Pearson the public wants action and
1:39:50
you have to be on message with the public I think having 50 different
1:39:56
issues that we prevail in over everyone else isn't being on message it may be
1:40:01
the message that we have over the years but we had people not war earning they're losing their jobs they're losing
1:40:07
their homes they don't have opportunity the educational costs are just out of sight they have ready Hyneman student
1:40:14
ones their parents mortgage their property pay student loans you can't pay em now the public is hurting and wants
1:40:21
results they're not going to listen I think to be the court libertarian issues
1:40:27
as being able to pull them out of their misery I think we have to show them we
1:40:33
have to show them exactly how libertarian values can create jobs
1:40:38
privately at no cost to the government by having the first three employees be
1:40:44
free of regulation you'll create what he knew you high paying jobs around the
1:40:49
thousands of two thousand a week is number two in a small business the public needs it but we need people to be
1:40:56
trained to accept that kind of employment we have to deregulate higher education to allow small business to set
1:41:02
of the training programs nationwide up to train people so they can go into these jobs the other people have
1:41:08
traditionally hired don't hire anymore but we don't want them to hire any more it's on us in small business to create
1:41:14
the employment that will actually reduce the it'll create opportunities create
1:41:19
jobs and people to keep their phones the message home foreclosures hit said if a person
1:41:25
proves he can't keep his own and can't afford it and that the home is going to be sold at foreclosure if they can
1:41:31
demonstrate that they can afford to pay the mortgage at that reduced value of the property at the present industry why
1:41:39
should they be allowed to stay in the property if the property is just going to be sold to the neighbor across the
1:41:44
street it's not giving them anything he's just giving the same thing and should that the right the first option
1:41:50
to remain in the property so the public wants to hear solutions I have these solutions and I've developed them and
1:41:57
this is what will sell if you want to win the election sell the public on these values that libertarian principles
1:42:03
have for them mr. Johnson I don't you
1:42:13
this afternoon so much as debate as a job interview and I really want you all
1:42:19
to know that I would love to be the nominee of this party of love to have this job I think the governing first and
1:42:26
foremost should be constitutionally based I think that we need to balance the federal budget and that means
1:42:32
slashing spending it means ending the wars the drug wars of the conflicts that
1:42:37
we are currently engaged as governor of New Mexico good government with music it
1:42:44
wasn't hard and that started with looking at issues first and politics
1:42:49
last as an athlete what I have learned as an athlete is you've got to enjoy the
1:42:56
journey life is a journey it's not a destination you I love the hard work I
1:43:03
love that part of it I don't look to the end result I look to working hard as
1:43:08
governor of New Mexico taking on these issues debating discussing not shine
1:43:14
away from the rightness of the issue the Libertarian Party candidate is going to
1:43:21
be the only candidate that's going to be talking about gun rights and gay rights in the same sentence the Libertarian
1:43:29
candidate is the only candidate that's going to be talking about slashing welfare spending
1:43:34
and slashing warfare spending in the same sentence this is an opportunity
1:43:39
right now to change the world who is ultimately responsible for the poll done
1:43:47
in October that had fifty percent of Americans supporting legalization of
1:43:53
marijuana ultimately the organization responsible for that is the Libertarian
1:43:58
Party and when you go back forty years people recognize that and right now
1:44:04
there's going to be a refocus on that there's going to be a refocus on who's really talking about the issues and the
1:44:10
solutions that go along with the problems that we face and they're also going to be looking for somebody who has
1:44:17
a resume that actually suggests that they would dogged Lee pursue the agenda that they put forward thank you all very
1:44:24
much for your activism over the years it's made a difference I applaud you
1:44:31
continue that activism thank you very much
1:44:42
mr. Keller first off thank you to the leadership with the local party that you
1:44:49
were able to put this event together and then you invited me down here from Colorado thank you very much it was really a pleasure getting a chance to
1:44:56
talk about the issues and meet these guys again and one of the things that i
1:45:03
want to say real quick is that yeah you have some options here but i think that
1:45:09
we need to come together as a group everybody up here has some good ideas everybody I don't think that there's a
1:45:16
single person up here that didn't have some and I find agreement with a lot of
1:45:21
things that everybody set up here I'm believing that you probably did too it's going to be hard to choose one
1:45:26
particular person because if you choose one then you're leaving out some of the other items somebody else was talking
1:45:32
about maybe the one you're choosing didn't believe well we have the ability
1:45:38
as a party to come together and rally behind that person teach the person some
1:45:44
ideas help the person understand some ideas that maybe they didn't quite understand or maybe they didn't quite
1:45:51
agree with what you're saying we should have it open debate this gary said we
1:45:56
should have debate on the fairtax we should have a debate on the federal reserve we should have a debate on individual issues whereas an open forum
1:46:04
so we can get the truth about the various issues and the solutions to them in the roots the club root causes of the
1:46:10
issues so we can be as long as a party and be able to with a good conscience
1:46:18
send whoever the nominee is up to debate with Obama and Romney and whoever else
1:46:25
that they are going to do it not just an okay job not just get five percenters
1:46:32
six percent or whatever but they'll have a chance of getting forty fifty sixty percent of the vote because they are up
1:46:39
there giving the people ideas and and solutions that none of the other
1:46:45
candidates are saying Obama was not saying it he's had well you know for
1:46:51
years to do it he hasn't said anything about it yet something that actually makes sense that will solve anything Romney's not saying it and both the
1:46:59
Republicans and the Democrats you see it poll after poll after poll the rank-and-file Democrats and Republicans
1:47:05
are not happy with their candidate why because they're saying the same thing over and over and over again and
1:47:12
suggesting that we do the same thing over and over and over again and what's the definition of insanity you guys
1:47:18
don't know it doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results it's not going to happen with
1:47:24
any one of the candidates up here as believe you're going to get a different result if we all rally behind that candidate and mold a a set of answers
1:47:34
and solutions that we can present the people then we are going to be noticed
1:47:40
in a very positive way and we may very well win
1:47:50
mr. rides oh yes collective sigh relieved the last minute Colette's me
1:47:59
because I got to hear my colleagues where they sa wonderful opportunity for
1:48:06
each one typically those review the movie national governments to have dis
1:48:12
amount of choice but when they do a presidential election another there's a real choice we're not out here running
1:48:18
and collecting our delegates and then our next revision is just a show like and publish the Democrats that our way
1:48:24
to know what's going on for they get there we never know what's my half an hour then that's why I feel at home does
1:48:34
I feel like that's what was Ben I've never know what's going to happen next I'll see all my campaign manager knows
1:48:40
exactly what I'm talking about bangs lived in his car I will suitcase since
1:48:49
2010 so he couldn't even president if
1:48:55
people ask me why do this I do for my baby for people like Thomas healing Pat
1:49:02
Dixon Kathy laughs John J marks people that dedicate themselves to liberty and
1:49:09
that's what I do that's what I bring to this Rick's you can bet one thing with
1:49:15
Lee writes every question will have a libertarian answer because as our president Arizona but already pointed
1:49:21
out to us there's only one answer freedom every time
1:49:33
what we don't just say freedom and then standing look at the Dome looks looking back at me can't do that of course
1:49:41
that's why you've got to see today what we all have offered true choices rational alternatives something that
1:49:50
this country desperately needs talk about the fifty percent of people who
1:49:55
don't vote they learned the hard way those used for becoming vote we can give
1:50:02
them hope true go and I hope that's talked about and then the cast / daughter Susie is elected president not
1:50:11
promised change and then get the same thing to be true to our words to live
1:50:19
the lieutenant lifestyle as an example to our fellow human beings to show them that we're not really all that different
1:50:25
we have families loved ones we bleed we cry we want the same things they do we
1:50:32
just figured out the government can help us get those things
1:50:42
this is my web-site rights 2012 com please go out and check out me but mark
1:50:48
on this this is a march for everybody effort of everything candidate is and
1:50:53
always remember stop the wars because you don't teach people it's wrong to
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kill people by killing you know teach people was wrong too volatile by
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Bonnington join me I am NOT a warm enough of saying that can happen
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just bc for just a couple more minutes we're almost done but one thing I would
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like to do is I would really like to thank a couple people I'd like you to thank a couple of people who made this
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make this actually happen and run smoothly and that's our two timers if you stand up for a fall
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also want to thank our organizer here John is 58 yes
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thank you very much and tilts way earlier this was like a writer who
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writes a movie and then he takes this script and hands it to the director and then the director takes her vision and
1:52:34
hands it to the actors and you kind of don't know how it's actually going to all end up but you know why when you
1:52:39
have a great director and you have some fantastic actors you usually put out a real great product so thank you very
1:52:45
much to the candidates thank you so much to sharing really great type questions and certainly appreciate your efforts
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and creativity a really nice crowd but
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first of all our product is it's good thing you guys sure that because we are just chock-full of national delegates
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here so yes and so our national convention in Las Vegas is going to be
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an event that you'll barely want to attend I will would like to remind the dog is here that April 10th a volt amp
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is the deadline to make sure that you have your rooms so please go to LP dot
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org and you can click on to the website to make sure that you've got your rooms
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and that you're here yeah so also after that thank you to our wonderful election
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of rules here in Texas our state convention actually occurs after the National Englishman and that is going to
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be an awesome awesome event and I'd like to ask her chair Pat Dixon tuacahn just
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a little bit about what's going to happen here it's really exciting
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I think in two months one of these people will be back as the nominee for
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the Libertarian Party we want you back with us it's going to be here in Fort
1:54:08
Worth so for all the people that are here there's some Flyers that were distributed than maybe on your seats and
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people are watching over the internet or whatever we want you here in Fort Worth june eight through 10th we are building
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up our list of speakers one of them will be Tom Lloyd's so many of you know there's a website on that flyer keep
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posted on that website because we're going to update that over time but we want you back with us thank you for
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being here today
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