U.S. Senate Candidate Forum, Texas Libertarian Party - 2012/06/08, Phase 2

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okay we will now proceed the following round will work

this way I would ask questions from the floor sit down here please identify

yourself and your Counting please keep your comments to a

minimum and please be in the form of a question this is sort of like Jeopardy okay got to be in the form of a question

and I will give you a bell after 30 seconds okay so please keep it to 30 seconds each candidate will then be

given 2 minutes to respond to the to both questions to the to the question that

you ask so both candidates will be given a chance to respond even is directed at one

person we will then proceed on for 20 minutes for that and then take time out

for 3 minute closing from each candidate I would ask that someone be brave enough

to take to the microphone and ask the first question we're hearing some

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never and we'll uh for the same rules we'll apply Mr James and you'll answer the question first and then we'll

straight okay what did you do rock paper scissors already we

we we going to wrestle to see if can first all right we'll have speak first

uh question less than 30 seconds begin thank you as 1% I don't think this one's working

yet it is okay as 1% of the US Senate what do you actually hope to accomplish

One Voice makes a huge difference they have ties all the time

bid um so people say well did you vote for the Republicans or the Democrats well you know I guess which whatever one

made the least damage stupid sense of the day I

mean you'd have to vote one way or another of course you would to introduce your own legislation but it takes actually to be honest it takes a couple

years to establish any credibility in the Senate get on any committee to actually introduce any legislation of

your own so I would side with whichever one including not voting maybe the most

sense of the day and I think that that one voice in the US Senate could make a huge difference Mr Myers well I I would

concur that that is I mean we just saw one man in the in in the house actually

cause a revolution in this country so I'm quite certain that one man in the Senate I'd actually hopefully be a

little bit better than Rand when it comes to standing up for libertarian ideas but uh the uh and I just mean that

it's the truth the uh the other thing though I think that as soon as I got to the Senate as one of 100 the first thing

that I would do is look around for people who have like-minded interest because I would I I would think that I

what I want to do is address specific things like bringing our troops home I'm sure there are Democratic senators that

want to bring our troops home I want to go make friends with those guys and say let's do something specifically about

this I'm sure there's Democratic senators that got and Republicans that have a bone to pick with the fed well

let me get with these guys let me build up coalitions with people on these One issues where we're going to agree I

really don't care to agree with them on issues where we don't I wouldn't vote for things I don't believe in but wherever there's going to be some

commonality we could use downsized downsize D all right thank you

all right again uh question and if I could again ask you for your name and wh County I'm jimar I'm a delegate from

Cameron County in South South Texas uh my question has to do with what

I consider un unconstitutional laws that are enacted

unconstitutionally is specifically federal regulations and uh presidential

executive orders uh uh there's a senator Rice I believe it

is from Utah has a uh legislation to

require that all federal regulations that have an economic impact greater

than $350 million I think cannot be enact enforced until

they are passed by the the uh House of Representatives and Senate

go yep Mr Myers your first you don't get first every time uh well I mean uh you

know I was just about to talk about downsize DC so now I'll talk about it they have several different bills the last one I was going to talk about was

it was a different one but this one is that the other one that they have is that every bill that's passed if it had

some sort of impact whatsoever should have to prove its constitutionality you would have to find in the Constitution

where that particular law that want to to apply makes sense and so I give props

to those guys but that would be that would be definitely one road that because I don't I I'm not sure if I

understand necessarily the question I understand that that occurs and and I wouldn't vote for any unconstitutional

legislation ever and it would be my intent to try to repeal as much as we could as possible I think you know John

Rand uh that honestly John Rand would be one of the first guys I would call to help with the with the campaign because

he has actually good ideas and they just need to be put out

there maybe in a different way well uh it's not surprising that

since we're all Libertarians I agree with both Mr Myers and and the questioner that of course we need laws

that are based in the Constitution they did go to the trouble in Obamacare to put down the justification to the law

was commerce clause which is uh currently going for the US suprem war and I hope it proves ridiculous they the

Commerce Clause of settling disputes between states to somehow regulating healthc care it seems like a stretch um

there's another law pending for the US Senate payche paycheck Fairness Act and it and it cites the Commerce Clause as

well and it says that we need a giant government bureaucracy and this is pening legislation that I could actually

theoretically vote on if I was a Senator uh to monitor the quality of pay between

girls women and men and it makes that distinction and it provides that the Secretary of Labor can and provide free

education to make women tougher girls and women it always says girls and women tougher negotiators so that girls can

grow up to be women and women can grow up to be men I guess thinking there um and when you

read these type of laws like Obamacare the payche paycheck Fairness Act all of them are just incredibly creepy and just

imply this vast computer and I would vote against all of that Insanity that's completely wrong completely bogus really

creepy thank you all right gentlemen uh I'm Jim Ryan uh

from Tom Green County a delegate and my first time on

libertarian I a disaffected

republican I have been to every Republican State Convention for the last

20 years but my question my grandmother used to

prescribe fairly harsh doses of medicine for what ills you is there or should

there ever be such a thing as a bank a Fed a Euro country or any institution

too big to fail that needs our money to bail it out good

question of course not I mean that's absurd I mean we gave our banks billions

of dollars under tarp did nothing with it we gave Europe trillions of dollars under some Authority and we don't know

what they did with it um you know meanwhile American people get foreclosed

on but nobody bails us out I mean not that they should of course but there's no justification for the executive or

Congress or Ben beri to give away all of her money and all of her wealth that's I actually that's treason that's you're

you sold out the tribe um that's completely wrong completely bogus uh capitalism means you can fail and you

will fail if you're not doing your job and you should fail I mean I did go to business school and they taught me a few

things that still make sense they also taught me CH changing economics as the Bible which has turned out to be

completely false so I'm going to have to sue Bor University my money back that's

just a huge whip off I'm really mad about that but No No's too big to

fail I think that we've seen so many times where you could imagine that maybe there would be

something something that government could just do right just as once and it's always it's always your thing you

know you always think it's it's my thing but honestly are are you or me or anyone the type of people that government looks

out for so is that the type of power you'd ask to just Empower them with one time is the same power you're giving

them to use against you every time and so that's why you want a limited

government that exists have the Constitution only exist to protect your rights we've given uh I don't know how

many I'm not up on the numbers but the car industry we bailed out the car industry and I remember at the time that

we build out the car industry I thought to myself if I had that money I could start a car

industry you know what I mean I can start if I could just have that money I could start an

industry of of new cars that ran really I'm suck anyway

this goes right by and and cindra I I'd love to talk about this

further thank you I'm Nancy henchel from uh Fort bin

County delegate from Fort bin County and this is my first uh First St experience

here I will say this I you know I've been a part of writing some of some of these uh positions um also but every one

of these positions with the exception of one seems brilliantly thought out well written and just I'm really excited to

be here now I'm going to talk about the one exception do you think do you want your

position perspective on the position of um a Health Care system that is less a

Health Care system than it is a monopolistic insurance industry that

then uh participates in willy-nilly administering Healthcare and do you

think do you think it's right to withdraw raw safety nets until those um

monop the monopolistic uh insurance industry is uh is

controlled well I mean the first you're you're absolutely right and I've made that case many times that we you know

the left shouldn't be very happy because no one has free health care all you're doing is being forced to buy a product I

think the most important thing to talk about here the most important reason that both the left and the right and I

just talked about how government uses the power granted to continue to give itself more power and I think when we're

talking about the healthcare the most important reason that that law needs to be the Supreme Court needs to strike it

down is the idea of precedent what you are creating with precedent of allowing a corporation or

corporations to to be you be forced to purchase a product from a company that's

what you would be forced to do well then what what is the next step that we're all forced to buy Nike shoes or the next

step next the next person that says something is mandatory and we certainly need to have it you know these that's a

very important thing just on that alone Obamacare should be strucken down no

matter how you feel about it just because you're setting a precedent for

court you can get my lecture series on the thing that's a common theme of

all these laws is that there's a there's a law and then there's an exception in there like Obamacare unless it says

unless you're a Native American Indian then the following 500 pages apply to you instead you know and and then

there's the paycheck Fairness Act that says you have to pay a woman the same as a man unless you're willing to file this form for an exception well how many

employees are going to file that form and it goes on to tell you what allowable exceptions are if she has a hair lip if you don't find her attracted

as the other one the but who's going to file who's not going to file that form to make the exception so basically and

it says or other purposes as the secretary of the sponsoring Department sees fit so we're having the Department

of Labor and the department all these secretaries making the final decisions about your health care your wages any

situation that hurts you you go and complan to the government the secretary will fix it for you and just fill out

the form you know it's absurd that we operate that way uh it's absurd that we

have these mandates that the Obamacare law if you read it is complete Insanity all the laws that they passed follow

that same template of here's a bunch of bureaucracy with exceptions given to power over one person you know so that

that's all completely okay um thanks I would ask if you're not online to ask a question please don't get up okay go

ahead next please Markus is from Dallas County I'll try to keep it short what is

your stance on imminent

domain okay well all right imminent domain I'm I am a Texas real estate

broker and I'm a member of um my local board and we're always surprisingly

enough very Pro property rights um and I'd be sarcastic of course uh we are

very proactive about property rights and maximum property values and all the things that make real estate happy um

imminent domain is wrong whether you're building a football stadium or Highway

especially the way that it's enacted in Texas know we're talking trying to think at the federal level they they the

process is a complete mess um we it can in some ways it's actually needs to go

faster than it does I know it sounds weird take away somebody land faster but if you tell somebody we're going to tie

you up in Port for the next 10 years while we determined the fair market value that's an excruciating form of

torture in itself um so we need a fair process for those rare times when the government might need to take your

property but it's not the way it's being used especially here in home Texas right now now completely wrong

99% well let me um let me comment on that and try to spin it because it's

pretty I mean my policy is no I mean I mean no imminent domain on anyone if you

want someone's property you're going to have to pay for it and that's the bottom line but let me try to make another

point though that Harry Brown used to make which was that the biggest squatters right now the biggest water

right now in this country is the United States government I believe almost 30% of the property in this country is

actually tied down by the government so uh the department of the Interior is the

one that actually handles that and when you created the department of energy and

the department of interior the idea was to to assist us moving forward

supposedly uh but since the creation of these guys we have we've not moved

forward in energy let's say that for example even though the department of the Department of the Interior has so

much land that we could we could people could purchase and that could help pay down the debt which Harry Brown

recommended and that would be the way that would be a simple way for us to pay down the debt and get energy

[Music] moving thank you goe next question okay

uh Lindy SE terent County delegate uh one simple question I love both you guys

um what do you what do both of you you feel about um term limits

period I I I don't I don't believe in term limits okay and and the reason that

I don't believe in term limits is just because I I believe that American people need to be proactive and stop asking the

government to do everything for them if you want someone out of office vote them out of office if you don't want them there anymore do something about it

we've got a government that's out of control and the idea like that if you had someone in office that you would

actually like or want to see there hopefully you don't want that person G because that's

going to be a gone because that person is going to be a diamond in the rough it's not like that I expected I would oh

if I go there I want to stay there forever I would know when my time was up I would term limit myself but I don't

believe it's the government's role to do that because it's the people's role to vote people in and out of

office well um K Bailey hson said time she ran for re-election and a seat for

running for it she was never run again and she was going to come home to Texas and then she said we should even

vote for her to be Governor so she could spend more time with her family if you really think about those

thought processes it's so absurd it must be the best job in the world to be a US senator if you think about it because

none of them leave until they're dead um so but having said that I would

be willing to serve this uh in the US Senate for one term I I think that uh

and actually make that true I think a ter we have a term limit on the presidency of you know two consecutive

eight fouryear terms for eight years total uh I think two six-year turns 12 years as a senator is a long time for

that type of power um and access to those type of people and all that corruption probably

takes you a first term just to get on the Committees and the second term you can Implement policy and make some difference and leave your legacy and

then you should just go home [Applause]

I'm Joe CER I'm from L Texas Mr Myers would you please repeat

the question that you asked everybody else and then answer it yourself and Mr Jameson would you

please expand on your answer your previous answer thank you oh well the

the question I asked everybody else in in regards to it was kind of half of a a trick question and I admit to being a

little bit uh putting too hard of a question out there sort of uh one of the libertarian ways that you could honestly

there's many libertarian you'd have to look at this in terms of what does the libertarian Party stand for what do they

want with a lot of Regulation that we talk about right now when it comes to uh um well let me read so you guys know

what we're talking about let me redefine my question but the question was in regards

to pollution so the point being is that if

if you have if you set up contracts with people with with insurance companies

insurance companies are going to be on the line what whatever you have this is this is kind of a simple libertarian

philosophy if you have a contract and the insurance company is more on the line because they might get suit so let

me explain this in a better way uh if the insurance company if you have a thing where you

might be sued you're going to get insurance once you receive insurance that insurance is going to monitor the

company so it's none of the federal government's business it's not the state government's business the insurance company will monitor you and then it's

going to cost you more money to have that insurance if you wanted to so the way that you would solve pollution problems like that is by getting the

government out of it entirely and have insurance contracts with the insurance companies actually monitor these these

companies [Applause]

well right just take a pass he directed the question to him to answer his own

question I answered it in the in the first half so fair enough okay next

question please hi I'm uh James F delate from Denton County uh I like to say like

I'm new to the libertarian party um this is the heart of the question uh I was

originally a Republican and eventually voted for Libertarians in the the last election so this is my second cycle for

voting for Libertarians we have the T Party Movement now and we have Occupy Wall

Street we have more than 30% of the people out there that vote for Democrats or Republicans but don't want to vote

for Democrats or Republicans yet Libertarians only get single digits what will you do to get 30% 40% or more of

the vote for Senate thank you I will stop haing alen ating I would stop

alienating either one of those movements like I I honestly believe that the the Tea Party Movement and the Occupy

Movement started for the same reason both people noticed that the banks were ruling this country the Tea Party

Movement was all about the bailouts and all about the stimulus and that's what it's about and then it got hijacked by mainstream Republicans that wanted to

make sure that well yeah if you're in this make sure it's also this because it can't just be the banks Lord knows we can't have the banks getting mad at us

and then all of a sudden occupy comes up and occupi has same message I can't believe the banks now they're a little

bit misguided because they don't understand how it all works they don't understand without the government's giving the banks the past they have they

wouldn't be able to work the magic on you that they do but the point of it is is the main thing is to to get not

alienate either one of these and I think that we have candidates and Republicans definitely run candidates and that's the

way the mainstream media is set up they want to divide this country in half they want to make sure that there's this side

and that there's this side and and that's the only sides there is even though the rep the libertarian party does have a completely different angle

on both that we could bring those sides together and hopefully we will indeed do

[Applause] that I was the unopposed candidate last

C for lieutenant governor against uh David du Hurst and we had a debate scheduled and then the day before the

debate he got on a private jet with his wife and he flew to Paris and he was back Monday morning and

it never occurred to me cuz I'm so stupid that somebody would have the resources and the cowardness to pull off

that move I just didn't think like that it's it's like he's just going to run at the last minute so and he ran from the

only debate the only televised debate that we had schedule and he he fooled me you know I was a sucker to think he was

going to show up I'm willing to stalk

him if he flies to Paris I'll be at the airport just tap his

Vis I'll be that guy because it's just like he's not going to get away and and you know and I'm perfectly capable of

doing that I just didn't have the

[Applause] time whenever it comes to government

spending whenever it comes to government spending science programs and specifically the half that is NASA tends

to be The Whipping Boy of the media um what what is your view of science programs and specifically NASA within

the future of the US I think I'm first you know I I am a

bleeding heart libarian a little bit um NASA is huge um the things that you've

seen like Whipping Boy where you talk about like actually what turns out to be like 1% of the budget and we we're going

to take it out on mass we're going to take it out on Arts and Humanities because that's really what's that's really the problem it's not that we're

wiring trillions of dollars Europeans in the middle of the 90s so I have every sympathy for actually any type of thing

the government could theoretically do that's helpful like that I mean NASA is a singular thing other people can do art

appreciation but NASA right now we do have private companies that are coming right along to take me to Mars and start

a reality TV show I saw on Mars um and then you know for free but but you have

my sympathies and I would think that's a budget priority well way over giving it all away

to other people or foreigners so go

now I I really liked his answer it good I mean I um so it's hard to really say

you know maybe not the the trips to Mars but but I would say um could be fun NASA

itself I mean what the part I like about his answer is that it does seem like I mean you're asking specific question so

I want to give you a specific answer if I was talking to the media right now I would probably do what he do did and

turn the question towards areas I was more concerned with that I think we have a bigger problem with and NASA is not it

um I got a million problems and NASA ain't one but I'll

tell but I'll tell you you know NASA should be part of the Air Force as it exists in any way that it's supposed to

help the government and then and then that way it becomes part of that military budget because that's what we

really are using them for for the most part otherwise we've seen privatized shuttles going up right now to to the

space station that we have there so all of that should be privatized but when it comes there is going to be a military aspect to NASA and that should be move

to the Air

Force good evening I'm Mike kohes from Denton County and I'd like to know what you will do to force a budget vote in

the US Senate Mr Myers you see as far as a oh to force

force a budget vote oh do something well I would suppose I

would I would suppose that the main thing that I would do was would I would not vote for a budget that was not uh

that was not balanced so I I I you know I mean that would that would be the only

thing I could really do besides filibuster to some degree and I

would have to figure out actually how to do that so don't I have yet you know to

be on the S floor um but the budget is it's very important

because that's what's busting this country if we could get that if we can get to a balanced budget at least I think that we have to get far below a

balanced budget because we have debt if my wife told me it's like wow you know we've got $20,000 in debt and so we just

need to start living within our means I'll be like well probably not because we've got $220,000 in debt so the first

thing you got to do is what are you going to do about that debt but is in regards to forcing a budget vote uh the

main thing I would do is just not vote for a budget that uh I couldn't get behind well I I don't know whether with

Tipping Point or if it's code red I tend towards code red uh a company or

government operating without a budget and just a rolling Fiat money that's issued with one demand that's pure

Insanity um the 99% of Congress people

and both houses both Chambers spend their days call people asking for M they

spend 1% at lunch and then the rest of the time reading Readers Digest versions

of bills they already know they've already been told how to vote on by their party Elders that's completely

Insanity uh I would actually bother to read the laws as proposed until I fell

asleep um and then report to Texans what it means I don't see K Bailey Hutson in

my TV or John Corner in my TV but once in a blue moon in the last last thing I saw K hon for you know rest in peace on

her political career now finally was that we're going to have to slowly increase your taxes from Social Security

and every 6 months for 20 years while decreasing benefits I like that's just Insanity so I would have the good

conscience to uh like you said vote on only a balanced budget when it came up and to not vote on anything that didn't

have to do with the budget like the constant accommodations they pass all day long but they have no point

we have have had the final question according to what I what I call last candidates there are two Folks at the microphone would you like to take two

more questions we're down make them easy

okay my favorite color is blue really really really really no kidding the last

two questions he ma ter Alliance responsible government on the president and our

interest does not go much Beyond Dallas and County but specifically my question

has to deal with uh what power is currently held by the federal government do you think ought to be returned to the

states and or the local units of government

specifically oh I've lost track again this is tough this seems like it should

be something um states rights are are way Sovereign over the federal rights on

everything from speed limit to uh what form of currency we wouldn't pay the

federal bill in the original version of the US Constitution said that the tax base to support federal government was

supposed to be prated by population amongst the states and then each State's legislature was supposed to figure out how to pay the bill how did it come to

where each one of us is individually responsible at the risk of losing our assets and livelihoods for

miscalculating it's absurd system of Taxation it's not but our founding Founders and vision we need to get rid

of the income tax and um so so me it's really about focusing back on really the

core libertarian values and and doing what's just such obvious common

sense it the the basis here is that the constitution has 17 enumerated powers

that the government has anything to do with whatsoever if you want the government to have more than that to do

with it then you need to add an amendment to the Constitution to do so and which

when people talk about the Constitution they say you know use when I'm talking to the left they'll be like the Constitution is a changing document yeah

well change it brother because that's what you have to do when you want something else okay now the other thing

to say here is um you know when the founders wrote those 17 things this is another thing that cracks me up like

about the general welfare Clause of the Constitution people will say well the general welfare Clause is what to say

right the general welfare Clause is a restriction on government it is not an addition to the government I mean they

wouldn't have wrote a closet they would have wrote a closet says here's these 17 things that you can do let me be very specific postro you can coin money you

can do this and that and the other let me list all 17 of them and then go and whatever the hell else you please who

would say that know [Applause]

it my name is Brad CL I'm from L Texas um my question is around truth and

labeling um as Libertarians we generally support uh using Market solutions to

solve problems but a market can only really uh function uh effectively if there's good information how do you feel

about genetically modified organisms and truth and labeling oh I like that question you know and this is a great

question that I have you know I have thought about um a little and um it is

one of those questions where you get there is is that the big issues for me well no not necessarily but it is an important thing because I understand

exactly what you're saying there's a a part of the libertarian party believes enforcer

fraud and I think labeling kind of falls under fraud or mislabeling also falls

under fraud we could say there's a market solution out there but but I

think advertising a product that's something that's not is also part of fraud I to me

uh that type of legislation as long as was done by the states is not uh is not

something that I'm opposed to I the market solution to it would be not buy products by people who don't properly

label their products and if they label their products and their product is actually genetically modified when they

said it was not then it seems like you'd have a lawsuit that you could win um

that that's really all the further I thought about it

[Applause] Sant

Corporation the king of corn tells us that now that since we've all ingested their genetically modified corn that and

they admitted that it genetically modifies us as targets that now each one of us is individually pable by my S

because we're modified and well I disagree with that I don't want I don't want to you know San Corporation um I do

believe in disclosure laws um I think that is a uh legitimate role of

government at whatever level I don't want to be poisoned with my food or Pharmaceuticals not that I completely

trust the FDA to be the last arbitr of the best medical decision for me but you

know at least somebody's taking a look at the label and somebody's making a claim of what the contents are um so

that's that's a positive thing but it's it's very um much the fact that we don't

something should be able to be put out there as as not approved by the FP not have to go to appr process if you want

to take that that should not be illegal um I think every need to be able to grow their own food do their

own thank you now we will give two minutes for closing statements we'll

begin in order again with Mr James if you can go first for two minutes closing statements thank you sir and and thank

you Ed for the

uh your sign after being reconstructed has been replaced back into my yard so I live in Colin County I get to vote for

him so uh that's a privilege uh I I'm pleased to find another fellow Harry

Brown philosopher at my side I was surprised about that I should have done more research on my opposition to you

know not think that I was the only one that new things um so that's a good

thing um that is my heart is uh libertarian purple um I've since 2000

I've never voted anything the straight party libertarian ticket all the way down if there's nobody available for

that office I don't vote um I don't vote outside the party because I think this

party needs every hand on Deck we need to stick together all the way down the line and I'm sorry if that excludes

people like Ron Paul um you know it's just the way I feel um so I'm here for

you and I want you to be here for me I am here to ask for your vote um I I am a

serious candidate I do want to get on radio and television and have a real debate with du Hurst or Cruz or whomever

the Democrat is since they wanted to run off as well um I don't want to waste your time I would appreciate that if you

did vote for me that you also gave some small amount of money to my campaign I know it's embarrassing as a Libertarian

to ask for money but I'm going to do it I'm doing it right now um I am willing

to ask for money I'm not just sitting in my armchair thinking that gosh should would be nice if somebody would call and

offer me some free money um you know I am angry I I can get

to different levels of Rage um you know as needed um probably the calmer I look

the more angry I can be I want you to like me I want to connect with you I do care about the party very deeply I'm not

running uh to impress you or as a trick

I want I'd love to win at who wouldn't want to be a senator I'd love to Champion the cause of the libertarian

party of Texas and the national libertarian party as

well well a lot of the conversation that we've had tonight has reminded me of a of a little story because most of what I

tried to to kind of fall back to was that there are three key reasons on running I think everybody sitting here

has one of these and those three key reasons on the back um but the reason that I make those

those three key reasons part of my platform comes from a little story that I did and I put it out and L Rockwell

posted it up and uh it basically goes like this you wake up in the middle of the

night and there's a guy you hear crashing inside your house and you run

downstairs and there's a guy inside your house holding your television set

he's looking like he's going to run out the door with your television set so the

first thing that you say when you see that guy the first thing you're going to say right as he's got your TV the first thing you're going to say

is what do you think about gay marriage and then oh no no I'm sorry

what what's your stance on abortion no the first thing that you're going to say to that guy is stop

stealing my stuff right now

right now our government is robbing Us blind while we're having conversations

about gay marriage and abortion every time I want to turn the

conversation back to what I want it to be the money the money the wars living

your life as you see fit and just in living your life as you see fit they say well that covers gay marriage well sure

does well that's hey everybody get married we're done with it all right anybody that wants to marry anybody else

should be able to do that this isn't I don't understand how this these people telling me how to live my life is so

important to them it's important to me that they don't and so that's the the premise here behind the platform that

we're running on is that we believe that it actually appeals to a wide range of people on all sides and it doesn't get

muddled in the stuff that they get muddled in every time someone's running well what's your St what's your stance

on this what's your stance on that anyway I'm John J Myers you can look me up I'm fully Google

hundreds of videos online and uh I'd really love your vote and I appreciate you guys very much for being here and

being

Libertarians thises our debate for this evening what I'd like to do is one more round of applause for these two

gentlemen and the [Applause]

turn it off are name