PIML 96062601 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: Dean: You have sent a well reasoned message and, as a courtesy, I am willing to post it to PIML. I will refrain from interjecting my comments in the body of your message but I do choose to exercise my editorial prerogative to make introductory comments. Had you sent your message to my address instead of my wife's, it would have gone out with Tuesday's postings. You seem to be the kind of man I would want to vote for if I lived in your district and the only other choice was a Democrat. Unfortunately, your kind of man seems to very much be in the minority. In my own district in Texas, my incumbent Republican opponent for Texas House of Representatives, District 45, won by a 75% vote in the primary over a "libertarian Republican" candidate who said all the right things. Fortunately, those who voted in the Republican primary will not constitute a majority of voters in the November election. The incumbent has his politician act down pat but the time is soon coming when politician acts will no longer suffice. Based on your thirty years of experience you say ". . .the American people are totally conditioned to classify everyone in politics as either a Democrat, a Republican, or, a crazy radical fringe weirdo who is not trying to win." This may have been largely true during the past thirty years. What you fail to recognize is that our entire world is on the verge of a political and societal change that is totally unprecedented in recorded history. When the American people finally awaken, and they are close to doing so, and they realize what has been done to them by both the Democrats and the Republicans, in their righteous wrath the American people will throw out all Democrats and Republicans, the few worthwhile ones included. The time to attempt reform within the Republican Party is over. The rot is too deep, it can not be done. Look at what you are still calling the "enormous non violent Revolution that fundamentally altered the American political landscape forever in the November 1994 elections." What has your Republican revolution produced? Nothing, other than business as usual and less Liberty for the people, as the freshmen Republicans follow orders from New World Order Newt. History will record 1994 as the last chance of the Republicans, a chance which they threw away. There is indeed "more than one path to enlightenment", just as there is more than one path which can never lead to enlightenment. I am encouraged to hear that you and some other Republicans have made a positive difference in North Carolina. If you are elected I hope you choose to act swiftly to change parties, while you still can, and come back to the Libertarian Party - America's third party - soon to be America's first party. for Liberty, Bill Utterback =================================================================== Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 02:32:56 -0500 To: butterb@sagenet.net From: dean@blueridge.net (Dean Allen) (by way of Ann Utterback ) Subject: please post to - PIML - REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE REPLIES Dear Bill Utterbeck: I have been on the internet for about two months and a subscriber to your list for about a month. We have a lot in common. I lived in Texas for about thirty years and ran for Congress in the 9th district of Texas as a Libertarian in 1982. Currently I am a Republican Nominee for the North Carolina House of Representatives. I defeated two other candidates in the May 7, 1996 primary to win the nomination. The incumbent is not seeking re-election and I have an excellent chance to win the election. I cannot resist writing a reply to the LP veep candidate's message trashing (I believe very erroneously) all Republican candidates. The first campaign I was active in was the '64 Goldwater effort. I am probably one of the very few people to have ever served at the state level on the platform Committee of the American Party (Texas 1972), The Republican Party (Texas 1976, youngest member ever elected), The Libertarian Party (South Carolina 1980) and the Libertarian Party (Texas 1982). I have been a delegate to over 23 State conventions and about 18 of those were as a Republican. I want to share several observations gained fighting in the trenches for over thirty years: 1. Like it or not, the American people are totally conditioned to classify everyone in politics as either a Democrat, a Republican, or, a crazy radical fringe weirdo who is not trying to win. Those are the facts, you get to pick one of these three. 2. You cannot protect liberty, cut spending, cut taxes, balance budgets, defend rights or promote free enterprise - UNLESS YOU GET ELECTED! There is no prize for coming in second in politics. Politics is not the Olympics, there are no silver medals. 3. There are no committee Chairmanships and no Speakerships for the minority party even after you are elected. That means no ability to control the calendar or pass bills if you are in the minority party. These things are NECESSARY even if those bills a re written to dismantle government programs. I want even my Libertarian friends to comprehend the utter necessity of majority party status to dismantle government programs. 4. There was an enormous nonviolent Revolution that fundamentally altered the American political landscape forever in the November 1994 elections. To uninformed casual observers and Republican partisans there was the belief that the Revolution of 94 was about giving political power to Republicans. That is not what happened at all. The truth is the long awaited awakening of the American people finally happened. The people loudly and emphatically declared the forty some year experiment in state socialism to be a failure. They did not so much "give power" to Republicans, rather they "took" power from Democrats. 5. There are many fine decent patriotic Americans in both the Republican party and in the Libertarian party. People of good will who are sincerely committed to cutting the size, power, cost, intrusiveness and arrogance of government at every level. 6. Before the LP candidate for veep tars us all with the same brush he should become better informed. A few examples. Our County Commission went from 4-1 Democrat to 4-1 Republican. The new Republican majority froze hiring. Froze the budget, and has cut the tax rate two years in a row. They also REJECTED an application for a $1,500.000.00 federal block grant after I made a presentation and showed them that 80% of the funds went to administrative costs. [Note: to Libertarians I could have said the fed's have no money, the grant will raise taxes, the funds will not accomplish their intended aim of poverty reduction, etc., etc. However I would have been ignored. By zeroing in on the administrative waste I persuaded the 3-2 majority of the Commissioners to reject the grant.] One other example: The North Carolina Legislature adjourned last Friday because the House {Republican majority since the Revolution of 94} voted to adjourn and go home. Big deal you are thinking, the law required them to adjourn last Friday and they wer e just doing what is right. Why is that a political miracle? Because for over 100 years the Democrats just unplugged the official clock in the capital at 5:00 PM on Friday and stayed in session another 2 to 4 weeks arguing. Now the liberal newspapers in this state are having a field day whining that the sky will fall because the House adjourned [as it was required to do by law] and went home without agreeing with the state Senate passed bill to increase pay for school teachers and state employees. It is not only possible for Republicans to make a difference, we are doing it! This leads to my final point. There is a battle royal going on inside the Republican party, here in Rutherford County, in North Carolina and at the national level. The battle is, in the words of Pat Buchanan [my third choice for President] "a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party." The factions are: The old guard "Rockefeller" Republicans; The Populists; the Libertarians; the conservatives; and the Christian Coalition types. The last four groups need to be working together finding 95% friends rather than 5% enemies. The "big tent" theory of a party is fine but we need to make sure our coalition controls the gavel, the purse and the committee chairmanships under the "big tent." I know this is a long letter but I feel it is important for my Libertarian friends to know that there are a lot of us libertarians working in the Republican party, winning elections and putting our principles into effect through the legislative process. Many ancient masters have all taught there is more than one path to enlightenment. I hope the LP candidate for veep has been enlightened that he has friends he may not have known before. I am holding out an olive branch and asking Libertarians and libertarians to unite against common enemies. Let's fight opposing philosophies rather than party structures. Finally, I am really serious about winning my race in the 48th District of NC and ask every gentle reader who is able to render any possible assistance to my campaign. Warmest Personal Regards, Dean Allen P.O. 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