PIML 96061708 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: [Jeff's thoughts on the lack of patriot participation.] PIML ================================================================== From: CopWatch@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:47:52 -0400 To: USAFeature@gnn.com Subject: Re: Macon Georgia Update In a message dated 96-06-16 00:58:58 EDT, you write: >Thanks Jeff..but I'm beginning to wonder if anyone really gives a >shit. Donations are WAY down; if we don't get more, we'll have to >call off the whole damned thing. Don't even have enough to cover >the cost of the shotgun. > > The whole problem with this movement is that there is a lot of support for what we do, but people are too damn lazy to get off their dead asses and do something productive, besides bitch. No one ever gives a shit until it's their own ass in a sling....then they expect the whole world to give a damn. This deal in Macon, has really put me to thinking about this movement...especially the militia movement. Don't get me wrong...there are a lot of people who have helped and are continuing to help, but the majority in this movement are all talk. They would rather bitch about some personal conflict because they don't like someone, than to think of the good of the whole movement. Then we have those who say, I support what you do, but I can't be public about it. Well...Hell, they could send a dollar or two anonymously to the cause of freedom. No, they're waiting for everyone else to test the waters before they commit to anything. Mark my word, Jon, if the government told everyone tomorrow that they had to turn in all their guns...I can guarantee that resistance would be small. One thing that did impress me about Alabama was the fact that we had a candidate for US Senate who openly supported the militia movement, he lost his ass in the primary after receiving 10,000 votes. That tells me that even though he lost, we still have 10,000 quiet supporters for what we do. Now, if we could get these people to open their mouths, we could change this country. This man was not afraid to come to our militia rally, be photographed, do interviews and say what was on his mind...in front of God and everyone else. Now...I have a hell of a lot of respect for a man like that. People like this are the only incenetive I have to continue working with this movement. My attitude of this movement has changed drastically in the last couple of months. At first, I was all for killing 'em all and let God sort 'em out, but I have come to realize that many in the movement are worse than those we are fighting. Hell, I have met a few ATF agents that I have more respect for than some militia members. My plans for the future are to continue to fight corruption...on either side. Everything that's going on is not necessarily government's fault...most of the blame is with the folks who won't get off their dead ass and do anything about what's happening. The people who support people like Starr, but are too damn lazy to even send you a dollar for a raffle ticket. Again, there has been tremendous support from many in this movement, but 30 percent of that support is from non-militia folks. It takes individual effort to ever right the wrongs...a small percentage of this movement has been carrying all the weight of the battle on their shoulders...this small percentage amounts to a lot of people, but what the hell's wrong with all of these other folks...especially the radical one's that raise hell everytime law enforcement or government does something...but you never see the folks at a rally... you never see a dollar from them to help out with the victims...all you ever hear from them is "advice," over the telephone, fax or email. Too many armchair warriors in this movement...too many wannabes....too much talk .....too little action. I'm sorry, but I have lost all faith in this movement, as a whole, but I have gained a lot of faith in those who have always been there...ready and willing to help. Yeah...I'm still in this movement, but not as a "typical" militiaman, instead as someone who is going to continue to stand up for things that are right, help those who are victimized, be it government agents, patriots or common civilians. I've made a hell of a lot of friends doing this, and met a lot of good folks...from all walks of life. I have also met a lot of people I have no use for...people who use this movement for personal gain or glory seeking. It's not hard to see the difference. These glory seekers, then call everyone who has done something producive a damn fed, or CIA agent. This is usually done out of jealousy. It's done because someone did something productive for the cause and the glory seekers were too damn scared to get behind it until after it was over with. The only way they have of keeping their reputation is to label someone. You mark my word, when Starr is aquitted, everyone in the country, that did nothing, will claim responsiblity and it will be the greatest thing that ever happened. If, however, he's convicted, then these glory seekers will say the reason for it was because everyone working on the case was a fed, or he had poor representation. I remember Coushatta, I remember a militiaman in Michigan taking 100 percent credit for the peaceful surrender. The only reason Lynn Crawford surrendered is because he had no choice (it's hard to have a choice with support from only a dozen militamen)....not because Mr. Adams negotiated a peaceful solution. Have you ever noticed that all these people that take credit for something have never showed up on the ground while the battle was going on? You know why? It's because they want to be on the winning side...if their man loses then they can point fingers and say they had nothing to do with it, but if their man wins...then they take full credit. Too many damn "officers" in this movement...where are the enlisted men? Every militia meeting you go to has 90 percent of the people wearing some kind of officer rank...everyone's a damned colonel, captain or leutinant. I have yet for anyone to introduce themselves as a militaman, or better yet, a Constitutionalist ...without some kind of rank. This whole rank structure is bullshit...the only way you gain leadership is thru integrity and trust. This is a voluntary movement, no one controls anyone else. You want to know why the general public thinks the militia is a bunch of wackos, then look at the fools running around with BDUs and ribbons on their chest, totin' an AK... you want to change public perception, and actually do something productive for the cause, then get you a camera and some street clothes and start investigating and exposing corruption. Start rallying around someone who has been wronged by government, start preaching the Constitution everyday, talk to the press and talk radio, not about toting guns, but about government corruption. You don't have to have a damn rank or be in a militia to do that. I've heard all the "bad-ass" talk coming from gun totin' militia "special forces" personnel, hell, half of them wouldn't know how to properly dress a wound or care for a snake bite. The real funny part is that most of them are legends in their own mind, they're "waiting for the war to start," and they are too illiterate to realize that we are already at war, and the only way to properly win by beating the "enemy" in his own system of rules and to educate people. And the only way to do that is by getting involved. Once again, these "SF" wannabes are waiting for someone else to take point. God have mercy on this whole movement. Jon, you may be mad, but I'm pissed. Not pissed because anyone has let me down, but mad because people have selfishly let a lot of good folks carry this movement. So, I wouldn't expect too much response on the raffle. The "leaders" of the militia are always bragging about the large numbers who are true militia members...I've heard numbers as high as 10 million. They say they are just staying "underground," you and I both know that most of that is bullshit. Hell, if that were true, then you would be receiving anonymous third party dollar bills from all over the country. Jon, let the rally go on, if you have problems raising enough money to pay for the shotgun, let me know, I'll personally send you the remainder. I'm sending this out publicly, and hope to God everyone distributes this. As far as myself, I'm going to continue to network with those who have put their heart and soul in this movement...the Mike Kemps, Mike Perrins, Bob Starrs, Martin Linstedts and many others too numerous to mention... and let's not forget the press people, a few ATF and FBI people and several others who are trying to do the right thing, but I am finished helping these lazy ass armchair warriors. A pissed off Libertarian, Jeff Randall PS: If anyone has a guilty conscience from reading this then it's probably correct. ================================================================== * Patriot Information Mailing List * http://constitution.org/piml/piml.htm * A service to help inform those who have an active interest in * returning our federal and state governments to limited, * constitutional government * Send messages for consideration and possible posting to * butterb@sagenet.net (Bill Utterback). * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * "subscribe patriot" or "unsubscribe patriot" * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list are NOT verified. * See World's Smallest Political Quiz: www.self-gov.org/quiz.html * Libertarian is to LIBERTY as librarian is to library (DePena) * PIML grants permission to copy and repost this message * in its entirety with headers and trailers left intact.