PIML 96061407 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: [A historian's view of the General Council of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Texas.] PIML ================================================================== Jim: I will forward your request for information to the General Council of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Texas unofficial mailing list where it will be seen by Robert Kesterson (RT Secretary of State) , Wes Burnett (publisher of the unofficial RT Magazine) , and other RT officials and supporters. Robert Kesterson maintains an RT web page at which has some documents posted. I wish you greater success than I have had in obtaining proof of the 1845 non admission of Texas as a state claim from RT. I have copies of the letters rejecting the RT case from both the Texas Supreme Court and the International Court of Justice. The Supreme Court said they ". . . dismissed the above numbered and styled proceeding for want of jurisdiction." (Case Number 95-1002) and the International Court said ". . . It follows that neither the Court nor its Members can consider applications from private individuals . . . As a result, no action will be taken on your letter." (numbered 94135). These letters have not been posted to the RT web page. I can fax them to you if you will provide me with a fax number. Bill ================================================================== * Bill Utterback * Libertarian Party candidate for Texas House of Representatives, * District 45 (Comal and Guadalupe Counties) * * butterb@sagenet.net * * "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen * from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to * keep the Government from falling into error." * U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. * Douds, 339 U.S. 382,442 ================================================================== At 11:35 PM 6/11/96 -0500, you wrote: >Mr. Utterback, > >While I doubt that there is anything that you and I would agree upon, >politically speaking, with the possible exception of the absurdity of the >various claims of the "Republic of Texas Movement," I am an historian >(and temporarily expatriated Texan), who is currently writing an article >about this same "movement" and who is also writing to ask if you might be >able to assist with certain information or sources for such. > >Specifically, I am interested in the "personae dramatis" themselves. > >For example, the claim has been made that the so-called "Ambassador" is a >one-time "para-legal" who, "through diligent research," putatively >discovered that "Texas was not lawfully annexed or inducted into the >United States" and that the "Joint Resolution the Legislature of 1845 >annexed the State without the requisite number of votes." > >It is easily determinable that the so-called "Ambassador" did neither >research, nor "diligent research," as even a cursory examination of the >Congressional Globe for the 28th U.S. Congress easily demonstrates that >there is not the first bit of merit to the claim that "Texas was not >lawfully annexed or inducted into the United States" or to the claim >either that the "Joint Resolution the Legislature of 1845 annexed the >State without the requisite number of votes." > >Moreover, a review of the historical documents themselves, and >particularly the last paragraph of the "Joint Resolution for the >Annexation of Texas" (U.S. Statutes at Large, V., 797-798) further >demonstrates that there is no worth or merit to the claims of "treaty," >lack of "requisite votes," etc. > >So, my question is, Who are these people who claim to be the purported >"General Council of the Provisional Government of the Republic of >Texas?" What is their background and prior occupations (obviously >"researcher" is not one)? > >As well, I am looking for copies of the so-called court cases that this >group claims to have filed; specifically, the Texas Supreme Court case >and the one with the putative "International Court" of the Hague. > >I am looking for VERIFIABLE FACTUAL INFORMATION, not secondary-source >hyperbole or rhetorical license. If you cannot assist in this matter, is >it possible for you to direct me to sources where this information may be >obtained? > >Thanks. > > >Regards, > >Jim ================================================================== * Patriot Information Mailing List * http://constitution.org/piml/piml.htm * A service to help inform those who have an active interest in * returning our federal and state governments to limited, * constitutional government * Send messages for consideration and possible posting to * butterb@sagenet.net (Bill Utterback). * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * "subscribe patriot" or "unsubscribe patriot" * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list are NOT verified. * See World's Smallest Political Quiz: www.self-gov.org/quiz.html * Libertarian is to LIBERTY as librarian is to library (DePena) * PIML grants permission to copy and repost this message * in its entirety with headers and trailers left intact.