From aol.com!Mo10Cav Wed Aug 21 09:51:26 1996 X-POP3-Rcpt: jdr@mail Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01927 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 21 Aug 1996 06:39:34 -0700 Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA04342; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:30:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:30:32 -0400 From: Mo10Cav@aol.com Message-Id: <960821093032_184194656@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: UnreConfed@aol.com Cc: whit@cs.utexas.edu, HPBIII@aol.com, CopWatch@aol.com, ntcmc6@iadfw.net, eplurib@megalinx.net, TipRing123@aol.com, JHCapt@aol.com, MIPER1@aol.com, A2Fast4U@aol.com, MILITIA@tomlinson.com, Glockist@aol.com, JDR@crl.com, 70731.2155@compuserve.com, JGibson784@aol.com, 72074.2330@compuserve.com, fchatham@chathfr.win.net, K1911A1@aol.com, nryder@capecod.net, thudson@pen.net, hawkins@norden1.com, CGrib70171@aol.com, MarkXIV@aol.com, 72242.3227@compuserve.com, 102150.3274@compuserve.com, tsm1@ix.netcom.com, rfine@dopig.uab.edu, sbachus@hr.house.gov, AHABIZ@aol.com, butterb@connecti.com, dyurman@world.std.com, bobhall@telepath.com, BlkJack07@aol.com, lfrank@tennessean.com, TThomas101@aol.com, bucquero@pilot.msu.edu, COPS555@aol.com, GWilburn@aol.com, freeking@hub.ofthe.net, bradyco@sky.net, piml@connecti.com, BLDIRKS@aol.com, thomas.darby@the-matrix.com Subject: Re: JOHN DOE #2 IDENTIFIED, PART 18 Status: OR Dear Kirk, Once more you catch me on the run. A very detailed response will be forthcoming in JOHN DOE TIMES, Vol. II, No. 1, due out this weekend. Let's see if I can give you a quick synopsis. "To label me so easily as a Nazi"-- the JDT will include a complete transcript of your Volkstrue interview. Such interesting opinions about American democracy and the need for German racists to be true to their "German heritage". GERMAN HERITAGE? Like der Fuhrer, perhaps? I'll leave it to the gentle readers to decide who, and what, you represent. Nazi or Nazi snitch? It matters only to your inlaws, your "clients" past and present, your paymasters and (tangentially) to the juries that will judge you, here and in the Hereafter. It's crimes I'm concerned with, Kirk. Specifically, a certain mass murder in Oklahoma that you and your client(s) know a hell of a lot more than your "little ole me?" manner wants to admit. Your "Southern by the grace of God" defense washes nothing off. Unlike you, the traditional Klan, whatever their sins, had no truck with the Nazis. Most of them had fought the Nazis in Europe, lost good buddies to that slime, and knew what kind of an abomination the swastika represents. The very sight of a swastika reminded them of the thousands of gallons of American blood spilled smashing that hateful ideology. It is only with the dying off of that generation that the "seig heil set" was able to declare an "identity" of interest with the traditional racists and come to a mutual understanding. An understanding, I might add, that you had a considerable part in effecting. Are you still talking to Louis Beam, or has he figured it all out yet? "Where's Andy's check, by the way?" Good question, Kirk. When did you first meet Vincent Petruskie (Mr. Who-Me-CIA?), how many times have you met/spoken to him about your mutual "fair-haired" Andy and how many times have you handled money and messages from Petruskie to Strassmeir? Of course, you're not under oath here, but it is rather easier to get disbarred than it is to get convicted of a crime. Speaking of which, your "I'm just a valiant defender of the oppressed" defense might wash if you hadn't got involved with Andy until he got into trouble and needed your lawyerly services. Hell, you've been with him since Petruskie sponsored him into this country. He's was your "boy" in the "movement". Ask Pastor Millar about "Andy's army." You've provided him places to stay, support, connections, and after Oklahoma City, assistance in flight when you thought he might be accused. Hell, you're no civil liberties lawyer, you're a damn Nazi "consiglerie." A Mob lawyer, for an anti-American Mob. Now I don't know if you got into that position out of deeply-held racist and antisemitic views, or because someone paid you to have those views. Do you? "Are you capable of more than libelous criticism and negativism?" Oh boy, that is rich! The Nazis and their home-grown greenteethed American cousins REPRESENT "negativism"-- they are evil incarnate just as is the Clinton Administration (who they serve quite well as terrorist lackeys with a Turner-Diaries-inspired identity of purpose). The constitutional militias, in whose ranks I am proud to serve, represent the best and brightest of America. WE represent the historical roots of America's freedom, not the slimedog Nazi hatemongers into whose bosom you married, and effectively represent. We are firm believers in the "all men are created equal" creed that the Nazis sneer at. We will fight evil and terror from whatever source, even while you spin your lawyerly trade deflecting justice and making deals for the terrorists. You speak of representing a black man against local police brutality, and that is admirable, as was your defusing of the Freemen situation. But the other clients you represent would, if they had their way, just as soon see that man at the end of rope or shovel him into an oven. Until you and your "client" Andy come clean on the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy it's merely apple polishing and you know it. Am I bigot? You bet. I hate Nazis, Communists and all collectivist scourges of humanity. I hate the powerful elites who buy and sell human lives (as at Oklahoma City), regardless of race, creed, color or religion, to effect their greater prosperity. I hate lies and liars. And I really hate mass murderers. But more importantly I know who, and what, I love. I love my God, my family and my country. I love what she was and is, despite her faults, and I work to make her better. I love the Constitution of the United States. And I will die to defend it. I know who, and what, I love. The question at hand is: who does Kirk Lyons REALLY love? Only you, or perhaps a court of law, can answer that. -- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR