I had a nice conversation with Ambrose Evans-Pritchard July 30, 1996.

This is a report of some of the things we discussed.



For those of you who don't know who Ambrose is, he is a reporter for the

London Sunday Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk), assigned to their

Washington, DC, office. He has written a number of excellent articles on

the patriot/militia movement, and exposes of high-level corruption and

abuse. He is the kind of investigative journalist we might wish all

reporters were.



Naturally, the main topic was the Atlanta bombing. I brought him up to

date on what we know.



One thing I explained to him seemed to get his attention: why the

Clinton Administration is so bent on getting legislation requiring

taggants in explosives, and roving wiretaps.



The main reason for taggants is to make homemade gunpowder illegal.

Although most reloaders buy their gunpowder from gun shops, who get it

from four main manufacturers, it is easy to make, and many reloaders

know how to make it if they had to. It would be an easy step to make

taggants unavailable to anyone other than those four main manufacturers,

then, perhaps as a condition for selling to government agencies, require

those manufacturers to stop selling to gun shops and the public, thus

making ammunition unavailable to anyone outside law enforcement, and,

eventually, to anyone not in federal law enforcement.



The main reason for roving wiretaps is not to track criminals or

terrorists. It is for monitoring political reformers and

constitutionalists. Illegal wiretaps are already being used for that, of

course, but making roving wiretaps legal would allow them to monitor not

only a given suspect, but anyone he might call or visit, and, using

fabricated wiretap evidence, to prosecute all of them for conspiracy to

do something or other. The ease by which audio recordings can be

fabricated or altered makes them unreliable for any criminal

prosecution, but most juries don't know that.



We also discussed his interview with Andreas Strassmeir, the German

national who is involved in the Oklahoma City bombing. He related that

Strassmeir pretended to be merely passing on information told him, but

Ambrose thinks Strassmeir is his own informant. Strassmeir told Ambrose

that Timothy McVeigh did not know the bomb that went off was in the van,

that he thought there was a small explosive device, a kind of smoke

bomb, that would do no harm, and that he was supposed to drive the van

into a basement or loading garage of the federal building. Strassmeir

said that without McVeigh knowing it, others substituted a much larger

bomb, and he was unable to get the van into the basement because it was

too big. Ambrose said Strassmeir seemed extremely bitter about the whole

affair, indicating that he never intended that anyone should die, and

that he felt betrayed. The obvious implication is that the plan was sold

as a sting operation to almost everyone involved, and someone contrived

to alter the plan so that the bomb actually went off.



This appears to have also been the modus operandi in the World Trade

Center bombing, and informant reports indicate it was to be followed in

the Atlanta bombing. It is possible that very few persons in government

are involved in turning these "sting" operations into terrorist attacks

for political effect, and that those few may be taking their orders not

from their nominal superiors but from some elements outside government,

with their own agenda. Of course, once the bombs go off, everyone

involved has a strong reason to participate in the coverup.



Ambrose complained that when he has tried to interview some militia

activists, they were extremely suspicious and uncooperative, accusing

him of working for MI6. We need to pass the word down that talking with

Ambrose is okay. His work speaks for itself. If he did work for MI6, or

any other intelligence agency, which I doubt, it wouldn't matter. He

should be judged by his work, and his work is good.



Ambrose reports that he is due to return to Britain at the end of this

year. I think he has already earned a Pulitzer (if Brits qualify), but

while he is here, let's help him get the story out and really earn one.



There are several other journalists around that have been writing good

articles on subjects of concern to us. Know them and what they have

written, and work with them, subject to protecting the information that

must be protected to enable us to get convictions of the people we are

investigating. We do need to keep in mind that for a journalist the job

is done when the story is told, whereas for a militiaman the job is done

when the culprit is behind bars.



For more information on this subject see

http://constitution.org/okc/okc.htm



--Jon