PIML 96062508 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: [First we elect patriots to state legislatures. Then the states go after the feds.] PIML =================================================================== From: Roger Voss Subject: RE: Freemen: Betrayed!!! Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:08:06 -0700 Reply-To: snetnews@alterzone.com -> SearchNet's snetnews Mailing List I agree in essence with the position on personal sovereignty that the Freemen and others espouse. However, we cannot deny the reality that is clearly in the recorded history of our laws (and the nature and cause of their contrivance) -- as I produced to this list server from Senate Report 93-549. In other words, the view of the majority apparatus of our system of federal government is that under Congressional statutory acts, such as 12 U.S.C. 95, and many others, the executive can essentially suspend the supreme authority of the Constitution on the pretext of the President unilaterally proclaiming a national emergency. Over the years both the Judiciary and the Congress have repeatedly upheld and submitted to this authority. Now I personally believe that the Congress CANNOT create such new enumerated powers for the office of the president -- that only a constitutional amendment could accomplish such in any manner that could be counted legitimate or lawful. The Constitution itself makes no provision for it being suspended due to either declaration of war or insurrection and only allows for the suspension of the Writ of Haveas Corpus in time when the President has proclaimed there to be a rebellion (a very very narrow suspension compared to the ability to broadly suspend -- or defy -- the Constitution as per 12 U.S.C. 95). As far as I am concerned 12 U.S.C. 95 as amended in 1933 is not legitimate law. However, the federal government apparatus at large has been operating over the last several decades on the presumption that it is legitimate law with pretty much unanimity of the three branches of government. I suggest this course of action: 1) Educate your state legislature and your federal congressional representation to Senate Report 93-549 -- politely and firmly demand that the work then began in 1973 by the Senate Special Committee On The Termination Of The National Emergency now be reformed and resumed. 2) Any success in the federal Congress in this may indeed be problematic. The entire power structure apparatus of Washington D.C. now is firmly entrenched upon there being a perpetual state of national emergency and the war powers statutes reigning as the supreme law of the land instead of the Constitution. Hence it is imperative that we definitely concentrate on our respective state legislatures. The States ultimately ratified the Constitution. The States can demand an end to the perpetual national emergency which constitutes a de facto usurpation of the their sacred contract, the U.S. Constitution. If necessary, the States can ultimately dissolve the existing illigitimate federal government and reconstitute a new Constitutional and lawful government where the Constitution and Common Law reign as supreme law of the land. -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@alterzone.com -> Posted by: Roger Voss * Patriot Information Mailing List * http://constitution.org/piml/piml.htm * A service to help inform those who have an active interest in * returning our federal and state governments to limited, * constitutional government * Send messages for consideration and possible posting to * butterb@sagenet.net (Bill Utterback). * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * "subscribe patriot" or "unsubscribe patriot" * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list are NOT verified. * See World's Smallest Political Quiz: www.self-gov.org/quiz.html * Libertarian is to LIBERTY as librarian is to library (DePena) * PIML grants permission to copy and repost this message * in its entirety with headers and trailers left intact.