PIML 96061704 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: [Don't give up your right to vote!] PIML ================================================================== Alan: Even if all details of what you describe are factual, you are writing of unconstitutional actions. You agree that "The de jure Constitution is *NOT* suspended", but you apparently feel that the best way to oppose this problem is by voluntarily giving up your right to vote. Sorry, I can't agree with that. I maintain that there are two solutions to our problems with federal and state governments being out of control. (1) elect patriots to state and federal positions, or (2) armed revolution. I choose to work for the first to avoid the necessity for the second. Bill ================================================================== At 03:57 PM 6/16/96 -0700, you wrote: > Bill, >Although we disagree on some points, my argument about the constitution >being suspended is acutally correct. The barrier lies on whether you are a >corporate 14th ammendmant citizen of the corporate United States, or if you >are a de jure American, that has recinded your "contracts". > As a 14th ammendment, as a corporate citizen, the Constitution becomes >merely a priviledge, or rather, the corporate United States has copied the >original Constitution and codified it to create a "statutory" constitution >in which the rights become priviledges, regulatable, and revocable. > However, if you recind your contract to the United States, i.e. Social >Security, Voter Registration, by noticing them that they have commited a >breach of contract through fraud by not revealing the extent of those quazi >contracts, you can and do regain your de jure status, and fall back under >the original Constitution.... The one that *IS* the *supreme* law of the land. > > Once more I digress into history, I know you read it once, but read this >again and I think you will get the point. > > Lets say the Constitutional Federal Government had a big fight in >congress in 1860. The Northern states wanted to impose tarrif's (taxes) on >the southern states to make repairations on the war debts incurred over the >last few decades. The southern states said 'Hey, wait a minute, we are not >going to pay for the whole damn thing, THATS NOT FAIR'. The northern states >duke it out with the southern states and the southern reps walk out. Under >Parliamentary Law at that point, the only thing congress could do is vote to >set a time to re-conveine, and adjourn, because a quorum was not present. > Clearly from congressional records, they did not do that, and under >Parliamentary Law, Congress went sine die (sign-'e dye). Translated "without >day". Transligualed, Congress ceased to exist. Now if you go to your local >library, and Take Down West's United States Codes, Volume 1, and look in the >table of contents, Article 2. The Congress, you will see an asterisk next to >it. Look down at the bottom and see next to the asterisk, "Not positive law". > This means that the lawfull constitutional congress has ceased to exist, >and that all lawfull power was then transfered directly to the President, >then A. Lincoln, who then wrote out what is known to us as the Lieber >instructions, thus allowing him to issue his first executive orders (acting >under coersion of some corrupt individuals not clearly identified as yet, >most probably the masonic order), and sent the north to war with the south. > It was all over *money*. Now, the south loses, and under admiralty law, >they become a conquored party. Congress is then *ordered* back into session >by Johnson, and the big debate over the reconstruction acts began (if you >ever have time to go back and read them, they are most enlightening! >Especially Jouhnsons speech about why he vetoed them!). The now >unconstitutional congress could not remain unconstitutional, and they >overided the Presidents veto and went *INCORPORATED* in 1872!!! > They adopted the original Constitution, codified it, and made it public >policy, not law! It may be "legal" but it is not the de jure Constitution. >They Ranted and raved about how how all rights would be respected, etc..., >but what they didn't tell you is, 'only if it suited thier needs'! > Now, since the south was a conquered party under admiralty, they were >forced to incorporate as well. and eventually all state governments went >sine die, and incorporated as well. The De Jure lawfull government died with it! > > Now we have a corporate government operating under amiralty, that has >adopted the de jure Constitution as its "public policy", however there is >still a majority of de jure Constitutional Americans out there that it >really has no lawful authority over. Thier question is 'how do we get >lawfull authority over them?' > Answer: Just like Satan himself, they lured them to bite the apple! It >offered all kinds of nice trinkets, benefits, etc... Since a corporate >government/agency has the authority to contract under admiralty law, it >goes out to the public at large and says, 'sign up with us, and we will give >you free retirement, free medical coverage, free welfare, for just a small >yearly premium! All you have to do is sign on the dotted line and recieve >your own personal identification number for correspondance with us!' > Sounds good doesn't it! Oh for sure my Grandparents signed up >immediately!" As a consequence, They signed my mother up, and eventually >me... UNDER CONTRACT! Since the time of my birth certificate, (a benefit of >the corporate United States) I have been a corporate 14th ammendment citizen >of the United States. > The bad part is, that now, this corporate agency led themselves into >bankruptcy over bad deals in the stock market in 1933, and has gone downhill >since! Corruption, greed, perversion have set in, and they no longer feel >the need to respect the "priviledges" of thier "constituional" policies. > Fortunately for me, and a few others, we have gained this knowledge and >are recinding our contracts with great diligence. We are on a sinking ship, >and it is just a matter of time befoer we all go down with it, UNLESS we >abandon ship by giving them notice that you are recinding your contract with >them. > > The de jure Constitution is *NOT* suspended, the *Corporate >Constitution* is! > > >In HIS service, >Alan Russell, >Private Christian >Acting Cairman, >Ojai Jural Society > >********************* NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!! ********************** > > "You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think!" > > Alan Russell > ================================================================== * Patriot Information Mailing List * http://constitution.org/piml/piml.htm * A service to help inform those who have an active interest in * returning our federal and state governments to limited, * constitutional government * Send messages for consideration and possible posting to * butterb@sagenet.net (Bill Utterback). * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * "subscribe patriot" or "unsubscribe patriot" * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list are NOT verified. * See World's Smallest Political Quiz: www.self-gov.org/quiz.html * Libertarian is to LIBERTY as librarian is to library (DePena) * PIML grants permission to copy and repost this message * in its entirety with headers and trailers left intact.