Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:24:31 -0500 From: Ian Goddard Subject: Re: Waco Documentary Is A Hoax Carol Valentine wrote: >1. WTROE makes its gravest charge against the FBI--that adult Davidians >were machine-gunned as they ran from the burning Mt. Carmel Center on April >19, 1993--on a single piece of contested evidence. That evidence is >Forward-Looking Infra Red (FLIR) film taken by government forces on April >19, 1993. > >2. WTROE does not question the veracity of this evidence, even though the >source is the FBI, the very agency WTROE is accusing of murder. IAN: The source of the video was William Colby, former CIA head, who leaked the FLIR to the Davidians defense team, and he also said that Clinton was behind the OKC bombing. Shortly thereafter Colby's dead body was found floating not far from the boat that he "slipped" off. >3. WTROE argues that the Davidian mothers and children were not >deliberately murdered and that their deaths were the unintended result of >the CS attack and fire. IAN: Carol Valentine's general case against ROE is that she claims it presents a case of "negligence" against the government, and implies that REO is an effort to clear the govt of mass murder charges, when the fact is that with the FLIR, ROE presents PROOF of mass murder without reservation, and yet, ironically, that proof gets Valentine very upset. So she doesn't like it because of the proof of mass murder it has and she doesn't like it since she says it tries to clear the govt of mass murder. In short, her "negligence" argument is illogical and Valentine is the only one trying to clear the FBI of murder. Valentine's theory, as I've understood it, implies that Davidians were killed days before April 19 by surviving members of the Davidians that are now in jail (and thus should be), who are really govt agents. Since we could probably never prove they are govt agents, they would stay in jail and those believing that the govt killed the Davidians would have to wait until any evidence arose that proved that the Davidians were govt agents, and until then, the FBI et al are in the clear. Valentine would also have the FLIR and testimony of the doctors that blame the FBI thrown out of court. Valentine talks about the mutilations of the bodies found in the vault and tries to pin those mutilations on whoever was inside before April 19, and only the Davidians were inside then. However, General Partin has issued a report that makes the case that a bomb or bombs were applied to the vault where most people were hiding on April 19, and that bomb or bombs may have caused the mutilations seen. ************************************************************** Visit Ian Williams Goddard --------> http://Ian.Goddard.net ______________________________________________________________ "What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, & our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: our life is the creation of our mind." Buddha (The Dhammapada)