From daemon@mars.galstar.com Mon Feb 17 10:04:45 1997 Received: from mars.galstar.com ([204.251.80.4]) by THE-SPA.COM with ESMTP (IPAD 1.51) id 2197700 ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:04:42 EST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mars.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00854 for piml-mail; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:06:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by mars.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00847 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:06:26 -0600 (CST) From: Mo10Cav@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA05476; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:54:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:54:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970217075401_950519924@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: Mo10Cav@aol.com Subject: piml] John Doe Times, Vol. III, No. 18: Washington Weekly on OKC "Media Cabal" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.26550.emout07.mail.aol.com.856184041" Errors-To: piml-owner@mars.galstar.com X-bmw: Black Marble Wombat Version 5.1 Galstar Secure Hack --PART.BOUNDARY.0.26550.emout07.mail.aol.com.856184041 Content-ID: <0_26550_856184041@emout07.mail.aol.com.94530> Content-type: text/plain THE JOHN DOE TIMES Vol. III, No. 18 16 February 1997 IN THIS ISSUE: **WASHINGTON WEEKLY ON THE OKC COVERUP COLLAPSE & THE MEDIA'S FAILURE TO NOTICE. **ALSO: FBI VISITS OKC WITNESS ELEVEN TIMES BEFORE HE CHANGES STORY TO THEIR LIKING-- THE "RUBBER HOSE" METHOD OF FACT-GATHERING. AND: FEDS GIVE UP LAST WITNESS WHO PLACED McVEIGH IN DOWNTOWN OKC ON 19 APRIL 1995. DID TRUCK DRIVE ITSELF TO MURRAH BUILDING AND COMMIT SUICIDE? ************************************* The John Doe Times is an on-line, electronic newsletter published by the 1st Alabama Cavalry Regiment (Constitutional Militia) and friends. We are a proud and active member of the "Right Wing Media Cabal", Internet Division. Letters to the editor may be addressed to: Mo10Cav@aol.com. Neo-nazi letter bombs, letters of complaint from ATF & FBI agents too chicken to sign their names and regular snail mail may be addressed to: P.O. Box 926, Pinson, AL 35126. Back issues of the John Doe Times may be found at a number of websites including: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6784/index.htm http://www.techmgmt.com/restore/jdt.htm http://nighthawk.reichel.net/patriot/main.mhtml ************************************************* If a Coverup Tree Falls in the Federal Forest, and the Networks Don't Notice, Does It Make A Sound? John Cash's dynamite story on Carol Howe, simultaneously published here and in the McCurtain Gazette last Tuesday, was not picked up by the Asociated Press, either in Oklahoma or nationally. No network made it an item on their evening news, no talking head clucked over it on Sunday. It may be of some interest that this story is getting more press attention outside the country than within. A German news crew, for example, is arriving tomorrow (Monday, 17 February) in OKC to begin filming a piece on Andreas Strassmeir and the bombing conspiracy. Andreas may yet end up on the bottom of the tiger cage at the Berlin Zoo, somewhat worse for wear. The motives of the Oklahoma Associated Press for not running the story (indeed, for ignoring virtually all of the McCurtain Gazette's revealing stories on the bombing) is hard to understand (if not highly suspect) from a news organization's point of view. It may be petty personal jealousy, it may be simple stupidity. Yet, given the vigorous attempts on the part of the Clinton and Keating administrations to suppress this story, can we now count the Oklahoma City Associated Press operation as their handmaiden in coverup? The "secret command post" for the bombing sting (which Carol Howe was taken to immediately after the massacre by the ATF) was in the AP's old offices in the basement of a building owned, we are told, by the Daily Oklahoman (or "Joke-la-homan" as OKC aficionados call it). Now I don't think the AP or the Daily Oklahoman had anything to do with the bombing "sting", but one wonders if, at this late date of 20 months since that evil day, the Daily Oklahoman and Oklahoma AP are reluctant to admit that a little bitty newspaper from the southeastern corner had the skill and courage to report a story-- perhaps the most important American news story of the last quarter of the 20th Century-- that was under their own noses the entire time. "There is none so blind as he who will not see." At any rate, when this story finally comes out as all stories do, it will be the Daily Oklahoman, the Oklahoma AP, the networks and the "mainline newspapers" who will be shamefacedly staring at their shoes. For then it will be apparent to all that when the little government Public Information Officer said, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...The great and powerful Oz has spoken!", that they obeyed and looked away. Ashamed they will be, and none more deservedly so than the Oklahoma AP and the Daily Oklahoman. For it was THEIR backyard, THEIR "beat" and more to the point-- THEIR friends and neighbors whose murderers were left to go free by the deliberate inaction of two culpable administrations. Shame on them, indeed. -- Mike Vanderboegh, Editor, The John Doe Times *********************************************** WASHINGTON WEEKLY ON OKC "MEDIA CABAL" From: Washington Weekly Subject: Oklahoma City Coverup Exposed OKLAHOMA CITY COVERUP EXPOSED But The Mainstream Media Are Still In Denial By Edward Zehr A paid informant of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) has revealed to an Oklahoma newspaper that she reported to the agency late in 1994 that three federal buildings, two of them in Tulsa and the other in Oklahoma City, were being discussed as potential targets for bombing by members of an extremist group located in Elohim City, Oklahoma. The story has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, although NBC News on February 7 carried a somewhat different version of the revelations that later appeared in the McCurtain Daily Gazette, ambiguously suggesting that although Howe gave the government information regarding "alleged threats" prior to the bombing, there is "no evidence" that she reported "specific threats" against the Murrah Building until two days after the bombing. Reporter J.D. Cash, writing in the February 11 McCurtain (County, Oklahoma) Daily Gazette, is unequivocal in asserting that the government had prior warning of the attack, however: "During a series of clandestine interviews, Howe told the McCurtain Daily Gazette that the BATF knew as far back as the fall of 1994 that the Murrah Federal Building and two other Oklahoma federal buildings had been targeted for destruction by residents of and frequent visitors to an eastern Oklahoma religious cult known as Elohim City." Mike Vanderboegh, who edits the John Doe Times, a newsletter that covers current developments in the Oklahoma City bombing story, has alleged that ABC News had a more detailed story on the government's prior knowledge of the bombing ready to run, only to have it spiked by the network's management. Once more, the American mainstream media have given convincing demonstration of their inability to deal objectively and openly with a politically sensitive story of vital interest to the public. Lolling about on Air Force One shortly after the election, President Clinton told reporters who accompanied him on the flight that the Oklahoma bombing had been "a turning point in his political fortunes." The militias, who played no part whatever in the bombing, but like Richard Jewell, had much of the blame affixed to them through the deft use of innuendo by the mainstream press, found themselves lumped together with the bombers under the designation "Right-wingers" as the designated villains of the piece. "It broke a spell in the country as the people began searching for our common ground again," said Clinton, with self- serving unctuousness. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, the Washington bureau chief of the London Telegraph, whose keen observation of the American political scene is unparalleled, since the time of Alexis de Toqueville anyway, put it all in perspective: "Clinton seized the moment. He blamed Right-wing radio talk shows for sowing distrust of government institutions and for creating a climate of "hate" that fostered recourse to violence. He did not name the Republicans as co-conspirators; he did not have to. The US media made the connection for him. "Tim McVeigh was the military expression of the Gingrich agenda, opined the commentators. Republicans had failed to understand that rhetoric has consequences, and now look what had happened." The Republicans were utterly cowed by the audacity of Clinton's attack, unable to articulate a defense. Those few who attempted to remind the public that it had all started with the savagery of the government assault on the Branch Davidian compound at Waco were quickly shouted down by an intensely partisan and tendentious mainstream press. "It worked like magic for Clinton," Evans-Pritchard observed. "With control over the Justice Department and the FBI - which he has politicized to an extraordinary degree - he has been able to shape perception of the bombing." The British journalist expressed doubt, however, in an article appearing in the London Telegraph last November, that the government would be able to "keep the lid on this case" much longer. A number of local newspapers have reported allegations that federal authorities have failed to pursue all of those suspected of involvement in the bombing, in order to protect some who were informants. And in October the Canadian Broadcasting Company ran a documentary that put the story in an entirely different perspective. To trace the story to its origins, it is necessary to go back a dozen years or so to the group of self described "racialists" who live in a small settlement in the Ozark mountains of Eastern Oklahoma which they call Elohim City. ELOHIM CITY These people are adherents of a religious sect known as "Christian Identity" which teaches that white northern Europeans are God's chosen people, although they deny that they are "racists", or even "white separatists." The distinction is a fine one, to be sure. The movement's spiritual leader is an aging Canadian named Robert G. Millar, who was once a Mennonite pacifist. Millar settled in the location near Muldrow, Oklahoma 24 years ago with a small group of followers. Now the 71-year- old leader is known as "Grandpa" to his flock of 80 or so adherents, many of whom are related to him by birth or marriage. Millar told the CBC journalist who interviewed him that his followers are trained in the use of firearms when they reach the age of 13 or 14. Local police who visited the site several years ago to serve legal papers were greeted by armed teenagers, Deborah Hastings of the Associated Press observes that, "People seeking the company of like-minded zealots travel between Elohim City and other extremist encampments, including the Hayden Lake, Idaho, compound of Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler and the Pennsylvania farm of Aryan Nations leader Mark Thomas." RICHARD SNELL AND THE CSA Thomas, who was recently arrested in connection with a series of bank robberies, is a pivotal figure in the Aryan Republican Army, an armed, militant (some would say terrorist) organization. But the Oklahoma sect's connection with militant extremists began a good deal earlier. During the early 1980s, a man named Richard Snell made frequent trips to Elohim City accompanied by his followers. Snell was a key figure in a group of Arkansas extremists known as the CSA (The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of the Lord). Their goal was the violent overthrow of the federal government. In the words of the script writer of the CBC documentary, "Millar taught them about God, they taught Millar about guns." According to the CBC, in 1983 Snell and an associate named Jim Ellison came up with several schemes to punish the nation which they perceived to have strayed from the pathway of righteousness. One of their plans was "to blow up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, the same building that would be destroyed 13 years later." Kerry Noble, a follower of Millar and second in command of the CSA, is shown in the documentary saying, "I still look at things like this and realize how close we were, and, you know, that this could have been me having done this...It was one of the targets that we had talked about at CSA in '83. The day it happened, as soon as I heard it on the news, I said, the right wing's done [it], they finally took that step." Noble explained that the Murrah Building had been considered as a target because it was in a low security area and housed so many government agencies. He said the plotters thought that it would have more effect on the country "than if you did a building, say, in New York City or something." Jim Ellison, who was subsequently charged with sedition, admitted during his trial that he had "scoped out" the Murrah building and several others for Snell and one of his "associates." The did not have a chance to act on this information, though, for on April 19, 1985 (note the date) they were besieged by federal agents and, after holding them off for a time, surrendered and were taken into custody. Kerry Noble was imprisoned for 26 months after being convicted on weapons charges. Richard Snell was later arrested for the murder of a pawnbroker, whom he mistakenly thought to be Jewish, and of a black state trooper. He was convicted of murder and sentenced to death. He continued his campaign against the federal government from his cell on death row in an Arkansas prison, even editing a newsletter. In March of 1995 the State of Arkansas set an execution date for Snell -- April 19. This was particularly infuriating to Snell's supporters, who associated the date with the Waco atrocity. Possibly this is what motivated Tim McVeigh to choose the false birth date of April 19 on the fake driver's license which he used in the Oklahoma bombing. Kerry Noble is convinced that McVeigh was influenced by Snell. Asked if he thought it a coincidence that the ARA chose the Murrah building as a target, Noble replied, "No, I don't think it's any coincidence. When you bring that into account with the declaration of war that we made, the pressure that the older leaders of the groups are putting on the younger followers to do something in a major way before they die - no, it's no coincidence." Millar, who visited Snell frequently in prison was non-committal when asked whether he thought it possible that McVeigh was inspired by Snell's execution to blow up the Murrah Building. although he conceded that it was quite a coincidence and expressed hope that the truth would come out at the trial. WHO FINANCED THE BOMBING? An Oklahoma grand jury concluded in its final report that the bombing of the federal building had been financed with a theft of guns in Arkansas on November 5, 1994, yet federal authorities have concluded that the components of the bomb used in the attack had already been purchased at the time of the robbery. McVeigh's attorney has witnesses who place him hundreds of miles from the scene of the theft at the time it occurred. How then were McVeigh and Nichols able to support themselves during their extensive travels in 1994 and 1995? Both of them made trips back and forth across the country during the year prior to the bombing, and Nichols traveled several times to the Philippines with his wife during that time. Yet the two men were employed only sporadically and the profits from their gun show business were not adequate to finance their travels. A possible answer is suggested by the fact that McVeigh's whereabouts are unknown for several days preceding and following 11 of the 12 robberies committed by the ARA during this period. A possible clue was provided by Terry Nichols former wife, Lana Padilla, who told federal investigators that she found more than $60,000 in silver bullion in a Las Vegas storage locker rented by her ex-husband, together with several masks and wigs. She later told them that she had also discovered a bag containing $20,000 hidden in her utensil cabinet. THE ELOHIM CITY CONNECTION Bank robber Kevin McCarthy referred to Elohim City in testimony he gave at the trial of Peter Langan, the leader of the ARA gang, and Millar has confirmed that McCarthy lived there prior to the Oklahoma bombing and that Stedeford, another member of the gang, had also visited there from time to time. According to Millar, both McCarthy and Stedeford were closely associated with Andreas Strassmeir, who is thought by some observers to have been a BATF informant, and Michael Brescia, who has been identified by several witnesses as John Doe II. The McCurtain Gazette has interviewed witnesses who claim to have seen Strassmeir and Brescia with McVeigh on various occasions right up to the period several days before the bombing. Two women from Herington, Kansas who identified Brescia as John Doe II told the FBI that Strassmeir, McVeigh, and Brescia were old friends. This has been denied by Strassmeir's attorney Kirk Lyons. Brescia has declined to comment on this or any other allegations made against him. Although McVeigh denies having visited Elohim City, law enforcement authorities have told the McCurtain Gazette that their intelligence reports have placed him there on a number of occasions. There is also a record of McVeigh getting a traffic ticket just a few miles from the entrance of Elohim City on Oct. 12, 1993. McVeigh is believed to have participated in military maneuvers directed by Strassmeir at Elohim City on Sept. 12, 1994. About 70 people are said to have taken part in the exercise. The Oklahoma grand jury that investigated the bombing determined that the plot had been hatched on the following day. Records show that McVeigh was checked in to a nearby motel at the time. Telephone records show that on Sept. 24 somebody made the first of a series of calls for the purpose of acquiring the components of a bomb. The call was made from the home of Terry Nichols in Kansas where McVeigh was visiting at the time. Eleven days before the bombing Strassmeir, Brescia and McVeigh were seen together at Lady Godiva's, a strip club located in Tulsa, by several of the women who worked there. A video tape that was made in the dressing room of the club that night was shown in the CBC documentary. One of the dancers who appears in the tape mentioned that a customer had told her that "You're going to remember me on April 19, '95; you're going to remember me for the rest of your life." Witnesses identified the customer as McVeigh. One of the women who worked at the club said, after being interviewed by the FBI, that she might have to testify at McVeigh's trial. CAROL HOWE Carol E. Howe is a 26-year-old former actress and beauty queen who has won awards for steeplechase competition and hunting. She was an honors student in high school and college. More recently she has worked as an infiltrator of extremist groups and paid informant for the BATF, as has been revealed by the McCurtain Gazette and confirmed by the Justice Department. The newspaper conducted a series of interviews with Ms. Howe after learning her identity in early December and contacting her on Christmas Eve. During the course of the interviews she told them of the white supremacist ARA at Elohim City that had made plans to blow up a government building and had selected three potential targets in Oklahoma. She also described "in great detail" the work she did for Special Agent Angela Finley of the Tulsa office of the BATF. The agency has confirmed that Howe worked for them. In more than 70 reports she filed with the agency, Howe revealed that two of the subjects from Elohim City, Strassmeir and a man named Dennis Mahon, a former Oklahoma Klansman, had been casing the targeted buildings. Howe went along on one of the three trips the pair made to Oklahoma City for this purpose . According to Evans-Pritchard, Howe revealed in her monthly informant's reports that the subjects she had under surveillance had set a target date of April 19th of 1995 for the attack. She submitted these reports to Angela Finley before the April 19th bombing, not afterward, as erroneously reported by NBC. The McCurtain Gazette is unequivocal in reporting what "Howe says is the indisputable truth-- that the government had 'detailed prior knowledge' of the plot to bomb the building, but somehow failed to stop it." Within hours of the bombing, Howe was taken to the basement of the old Pepco building in downtown Oklahoma City for a debriefing. She was able to identify John Doe I and John Doe II immediately from sketches provided by federal agents. According to Evans-Pritchard, she identified Brescia as John Doe II, but John Doe I was not McVeigh as has been commonly assumed. The British journalist told Jim Quinn in a radio interview that he knows the identity of John Doe I, but is reluctant to divulge it at present. In the same interview, Evans-Pritchard dropped a bombshell of his own. Although the government claims to have witnesses who identify McVeigh as the person who came to the Ryder agency, under the alias of Robert Kling, to rent the truck used in the bombing, he could not have been there. McVeigh's defense team have a video tape taken from a surveillance camera that shows him sitting in a McDonald's in Junction City, eating a hamburger, at the time the truck was rented. This might explain why the description of John Doe I circulated by the FBI referred to a man with "pock-marked skin, fairly stocky" who stood about 5'10", whereas McVeigh is about 6' 3" tall, thin as a rail (160 lbs) and has a smooth complexion. Ms. Howe's story is supported by recently discovered documents that the government is required by law to turn over to the McVeigh defense team during the discovery process, but failed to do so. Last month, in response to a request by McVeigh's attorneys, the prosecution told Judge Richard Match that they had no information linking Strassmeir to the bombings. The judge is reported to have been outraged by the deception, telling one of the prosecutors, "You lie to me one more time and you'll be off this case!" He then ordered the government to turn over copies of all pertinent documents to the defense. Consequently, McVeigh's lawyers now have copies of all of the monthly reports that Howe filed with the BATF. Presumably, this is what prompted NBC to air their version of the story. In addition to details regarding Mahon's and Strassmeir's alleged surveillance of the targeted buildings, the intelligence reports describe statements they are alleged to have made about their plans to bomb federal installations. The McCurtain Gazette further reveals that, "Howe was routinely polygraphed by the government during the time she was making her monthly reports to the BATF. The government's own documents indicate she passed, 'showing no deception on her part in any polygraph examination.' " In a story that ran last July, the same newspaper quoted "a high-level, anonymous source in the intelligence division of the FBI who described Strassmeir as an 'intelligence asset' of the BATF." The Gazette says that "a former government undercover agent" told them, "It is typical for agencies such as the CIA, FBI and BATF to place multiple 'moles' inside a place like Elohim City and play one resource off the other, without either one knowing the identity of the other." Dennis Mahon claims that Howe is the one who advocated most of the violent acts at Elohim City. Depicting himself as the fall guy in the affair, he told the press, "They want to drag me into this thing and I barely remember even meeting Tim McVeigh. It was Strassmeir who was meeting with McVeigh, not me." THE MEDIA COVERUP Meanwhile, the mainstream press continue to spin the story to government specifications. A recent piece by the AP's Steven K. Paulson repeats the statement by "government officials" that "they never received specific threats about the Alfred P. Murrah building before the bombing," and devotes much space to Mahon's denials of the allegations made by Howe (which are outlined rather sparsely). The following excerpt should suffice to indicate just how far behind the power curve the AP is on this story: "The only apparent public link between McVeigh and Mahon's white-supremacist group is a telephone call made by someone using McVeigh's long-distance calling card two weeks before the bombing." A quick survey of the "Three Blind Mice," who provide the news coverage for 70 percent of the population, reveals that ABC apparently spiked the story. Referring to a segment on the Oklahoma bombing that recently ran on "20/20", Jim Quinn commented that, "There was a tremendous amount of pressure put on ABC not to run that report, and, according to Reed [Irvine at Accuracy In the Media], it came from the highest levels of the Justice Department." Presumably one story on such a taboo topic is about all we can expect a network to hazard. The single network that carried the Carol Howe story, NBC, apparently decided to settle for a "limited hangout." (That is the journalist's equivalent of copping to a lesser charge). The government knew all about the plot, but no matter, they learned of it too late to do anything about it. It will be interesting to see how NBC handles this if the intelligence reports are made public in McVeigh's trial. Will their statement be "no longer operative," or will they simply mumble that "mistakes were made?" As for the other network, Evans-Pritchard observed that, "As far as CBS is concerned, they're so far out to lunch, they don't know what they're doing." Nice going, mainstream media -- keep up the good work. And whatever you do, don't allow yourselves to be distracted by those gadflies in the "Right Wing Media Cabal." While you carry on with the coverup, they'll just go on eating your lunch. Published in the Feb. 17, 1997 issue of The Washington Weekly Copyright 1997 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com) >> --PART.BOUNDARY.0.26550.emout07.mail.aol.com.856184041 Content-ID: <0_26550_856184041@emout07.mail.aol.com.94531> Content-type: text/plain; name="MCV2.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
THE JOHN DOE TIMES

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which killed 168 people and injured more than 500. Manning told investiga=

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ng and which he was driving when arrested, because Manning remembered 18 =

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