From daemon@mars.galstar.com Wed Jan 29 02:36:51 1997 Received: from mars.galstar.com ([204.251.80.4]) by THE-SPA.COM with ESMTP (IPAD 1.51) id 3101700 ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:36:48 EST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mars.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24202 for piml-mail; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:34:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by mars.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24195 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:34:22 -0600 (CST) From: Mo10Cav@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id CAA10670; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:29:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:29:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970129021933_-1978663526@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: Mo10Cav@aol.com Subject: piml] John Doe Times, V.III, No.5: THE COVERUP COLLAPSES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.517.emout20.mail.aol.com.854522373" Errors-To: piml-owner@mars.galstar.com X-bmw: Black Marble Wombat Version 5.1 Galstar Secure Hack --PART.BOUNDARY.0.517.emout20.mail.aol.com.854522373 Content-ID: <0_517_854522373@emout20.mail.aol.com.32514> Content-type: text/plain See John Doe Times, Volume III, No. 5 attached. --PART.BOUNDARY.0.517.emout20.mail.aol.com.854522373 Content-ID: <0_517_854522373@emout20.mail.aol.com.32515> Content-type: text/plain; name="JDTV3N5.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The John Doe Times 28 January 1997 Vol. III, No. 5 =0D THE LATEST FROM THE BEST LITTLE NEWSPAPER IN OKLAHOMA: THE McCURTAIN GAZE= TTE =0D IN THIS ISSUE: J. D. CASH WITH THE STORY OF THE CENTURY! THE CRASHING SOUND YOU HEAR IS A COVERUP FALLING APART! STEPHEN JONES HAS A DUCK OVER NEWLY-REVEALED ATF SNITCH! =0D *************************************************************************= ******************* The John Doe Times is a proud member in good standing of the "Right Wing = Media Cabal", Internet Division. We're working our way up the Clinton Ad= ministration's Enemies List as fast as we can. = Back issues of The John Doe Times may be found at http:www.geocities.com/= CapitolHill/6784/index.htm and other sites on the World Wide Web. Send e= mail to Mo10Cav@aol.com. = =0D *************************************************************************= ******************** Copyright 1997, McCurtain Daily Gazette. Reprinted with permission. 28 January 1997 =0D McVEIGH'S SISTER LAUNDERED BANK ROBBERY PROCEEDS. =0D ATF SURVEILLANCE CONFIRMED BY INFORMANT =0D By J.D. Cash =0D The sister of Oklahoma City bombing suspect Timothy McVeigh told authorit= ies that her brother was part of a group that believed the government sho= uld be overthrown and that the propriety of robbing banks to finance that= objective should be "evaluated in light of the need for action." =0D In a sworn statement, dated May 2, 1995, Jennifer McVeigh, then 21, said = that she was given three (3) $100.00 bills and asked that they be exchang= ed for "clean money" because, her brother said, the bills were from a rec= ent bank robbery in which he and others had participated. = =0D Jennifer McVeigh was picked up for questioning in Florida shortly after h= er brother and his ex-army buddy, Terry Nichols, were identified as suspe= cts in the Oklahoma City bombing. =0D Jennifer McVeigh's sworn statement was made after FBI agents in Buffalo, = N.Y. told her that her original affidavit of May 1 would need to be verif= ied by a polygraph examiner. =0D After learning that one of the questions the examiner would pose referred= to the completeness of her information concerning her brother's suspicio= us activities before the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma, she= asked to make another affidavit. =0D In the May 2 affidavit, McVeigh's sister details the bombing defendant's = associations with "others"-- "others" who she claimed she could not ident= ify, but who were involved in a recent bank robbery and other criminal ac= ts. =0D Referring to a conversation with her brother in December 1994 at their re= cently deceased grandfather's New York residence, a portion of Ms. McVeig= h's May 2, 1995, statement says: =0D "He (Timothy McVeigh) had been involved in a bank robbery but did not pro= vide and further details concerning the robbery. He advised me that he h= ad not actually particpated in the robbery itself, but was somehow involv= ed in the planning or setting up of this robbery. Although he did not id= entify the participants by name, he stated that "they" had committed the = robbery. His purpose for relating this information to me was to request = that I exchange some of my own money for what I recall to be approximatel= y three (3) $100.00 bills." =0D "He explained that this money was from the bank robbery and he wished to = circulate this money through me. To the best of my recollection, I then = gave my brother what I recall to be approximately $300.00 of my personal = cash, in exchange for 3 $100.00 bills, which I deposited within the next = several days in an account at the Unit No. 1 Federal credit Union, Lockpo= rt, New York." =0D "I observed at that time that my brother had on his person an undetermine= d quantity of $100.00 bills, of which he provided me a small portion." =0D "It is my belief that this bank robbery had occurred within the recent pa= st. I was not made aware of the details or if there were any additional = robberies involving my brother or any of his associates. I do recall tha= t my brother remarked that the money he had in his possession represented= his share of the bank robbery proceeds." =0D Jennifer McVeigh's recollections to agents also included statements regar= ding a letter her brother sent her dated Dec. 24, 1993. =0D In that letter, Jennifer said her brother states, "Persons who rob banks = may not be criminals at all. He implied Jews are running the country and= a large degree of control is exercised by the Free Masons. Banks are th= e real thieves and the income tax is illegal." =0D Ms. McVeigh also told agents that a letter highly critical of the Waco ra= id-- that they had recovered from her computer disc-- was actually writte= n by her brother and mailed to the American Legion in the fall of 1994. =0D As well, she said, her brother had anonymously mailed a copy of that lett= er to an ATF office with a note accompanying it which said "You Mother F-= ----'s are going to hang." =0D Timothy McVeigh's purported involvement with a group of bank robbers may = find its way into a bank robbery trial currently going on in Columbus, Oh= io. =0D In the first of several anticipated bank robbery trials for self-styled r= evolutionary Peter K. "Commander Pedro" Langan, the government alleges th= at he led several others in planning and executing a number of heists. C= urrently Langan is standing trial for robberies of two Ohio banks in 1994= =2E =0D Authorities say Langan's gang, dubbed the Aryan Republican Army (ARA), us= ed the bank robbery proceeds to further their proclaimed goal of a race-b= ased revolution in this country. =0D Very little of the estimated $250,000 taken in the multi-state crime spre= e has yet been recovered. =0D Several members of the national media have been closely watching Langan's= trial-- now entering its third week-- searching for clues that might eme= rge which could link the Aryan Republican Army and the Oklahoma City bomb= ing. =0D Thus far, only Langan, 38, and three others, Scott A. Stedeford, 28; Kevi= n McCarthy, 19; and the late Richard Guthrie, 38, have been arrested for = their suspected roles in a string of 22 bank heists across seven Midweste= rn states. =0D Scott Stedeford has already been tried and convicted for one of the robbe= ries and still faces charges for several others. =0D McCarthy and Guthrie had earlier pled guily to numerous robberies and ent= ered into plea agreements to testify for the government. =0D Last July, only days after entering into a plea deal, Richard Guthrie was= found hanged in his jail cell. Authorities contend it was suicide. =0D Suspicious links between McVeigh and Langan's group have recently come un= der scrutiny of the media as more and more details have surfaced involvin= g the gang's associations with former residents of Elohim City-- a white = separatist enclave in far eastern Oklahoma. =0D According to published reports, Langan's group was modeled after another = band of revolutionaries called the "Order" that, over a decade ago, used = proceeds from various armored car heists to advance their goal of a white= -led insurrection against the federal establishment. =0D In a video tape obtained by the McCurtain Gazette, Peter Langan appears i= n disguise while he explains to potential recruits that the goal of the A= RA is the overthrow of the federal government and the subsequent executio= n of all Jews and the deportation of all non-whites from the United State= s. =0D In the tape, made only a few months before the Oklahoma City bombing, Lan= gan says, "Federal buildings may have to be bombed and civilian loss of l= ife is regrettable but expected." =0D Thus far, authorities have revealed little that ties McVeigh to the ARA, = but the Gazette has now learned that an ATF paid informant has linked McV= eigh and his ex-army buddy Michael Fortier to Elohim City and several mem= bers of the bank robbery scheme. =0D Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the confidential informant said t= hat the Tulsa office of the ATF was conducting surveillance and collectin= g data on residents of Elohim City prior to and after the bombing of the = Murrah Federal Building. =0D During this period, the ATF confidential informant recalled visits by McV= eigh and Fortier to the compound along with regular visits by Langan, Gut= hrie, Stedeford and McCarthy. =0D As well, the informant reported that conversations and videotapes of some= members of the ARA were passed along to the informant's handler, Special= Agent Angela Finley of the Tulsa ATF office. =0D In one such episode, the informant recalled for the Gazette that Agent Fi= nley helped the informant set up recording equipment so certain subjects = could be filmed handling explosives. =0D That tape, the informant told the Gazette, was turned over to Agent Finle= y after members of the ARA had dinner at the informant's house. =0D Clearly depicted on that tape the informant says is Elohim City's securit= y advisor, German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir painting hand grenades= with two members of the ARA. =0D Gazette readers may recall that Strassmeir is the mysterious figure whom = residents of Elohim City say Timothy McVeigh telephoned in the days befor= e the Oklahoma City bombing. =0D While Strassmeir's North carolina attorney, Kirk Lyons, denies any substa= ntial associations between McVeigh and Strassmeir, the confidential sourc= e says that statement is entirely untrue and that McVeigh was well-known = to Strassmeir and his circle of friends. =0D The informant also said that Strassmeir's discussions involving the bombi= ng of a federal building were passed along to Agent Finley in the fall of= 1994. =0D However, according to Lyons, Strassmeir was never officially questioned a= s a suspect by the authorities during the several months he remained in t= his country after the bombing. =0D As reported by the Gazette, Strassmeir is believed to have also been an A= TF "mole" at Elohim City. =0D This is a charge both Strassmeir and his attorney have steadfastly denied= , in spite of evidence obtained by attorneys for Tim McVeigh, which indic= ate that Strassmeir applied for various jobs with U.S. law enforcement ag= encies after beginning to visit this country in 1988. =0D Strassmeir, 37, a former German military officer with training in intelli= gence work, abruptly departed the U.S. last January and currently resides= at his father's home in Berlin. =0D Strassmeir's father, Guenter, served over 20 years in the West German par= liament and is a close confidant of current German Chancellor, Helmut Koh= l. =0D At the time of Geunter Strassmeir's retirement, he was serving as Secreta= ry of State to Berlin and was considered one of the key architects of the= reunification of the divided Germanies. =0D Attornies for McVeigh have been seeking information from prosecutors abou= t the younger Strassmeir's alleged ties to international terrorism and va= rious federal agencies where he sought employment. =0D Andreas Strassmeir and his Elohim City roommate, Michael Brescia, have be= en named with Timothy McVeigh and Michael Fortier in a wrongful death civ= il suit by bombing victim Edye Smith of Oklahoma City. =0D Smith lost her only two children, Chase, 3, and Colton, 2, in the April 1= 9, 1995 attack on the federal building. =0D Although Brescia was reportedly served by attorneys for Smith with the mu= lti-million dollar suit, the defendant did not respond within the statuto= ry period and has apparently decided to default on the action rather than= appear and defend himself. =0D Also, the Los Angeles Times reported Jan. 15 that Brescia's attorneys con= firm that the 26-year-old neo-Nazi has received a letter from the Philade= lphia U.S. Attorney's office ackowledging that he is the target of a wide= -ranging probe involving various criminal acts. =0D Reported in the Columbus Dispatch and the McCurtain Daily Gazette, Bresci= a was alluded to by Kevin McCarthy in earlier court testimony as a partic= ipant in the Aug. 30, 1995, robbery of a bank in Madison, Wis. =0D According to the ATF's confidential informant at Elohim City, Michael Bre= scia was a close associate of McCarthy and other members of the ARA. =0D The Rev. Robert Millar, the spiritual leader at Elohim City, said Brescia= , Stedeford, and McCarthy performed in the compound's band, The Iron Cros= s, and later formed a group in Philadelphia called Cyanide. =0D *************************************************************** TULSA WORLD, 28 Jan 1997 =0D McVEIGH LAWYER SEEKS DATA ON SEPARATISTS Tulsan Reportedly Gave Investigators Information By Julie DelCour =0D Shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing, a Tulsa woman supplied federal i= nvestigators with information about two men linked to a white-separatist = community, the lead attorney for Timothy McVeigh said Monday. =0D Attorney Stephen Jones said he had received "credible information" that t= he woman discussed with agents German national Andreas carl Strassmeir an= d Tulsan Dennis Mahon. Prosecutors have not turned over information abou= t the alleged interview, Jones said. =0D If he can prove prosecutors withheld the information from him, Jones said= "we would treat the matter as extremely serious. I would hope for the i= ntegrity of the investigation that information was not withheld." =0D Before returning to germany in July 1995, Strassmeir lived at Elohim City= , a white separatist community in eastern Oklahoma. Mahon, a former Ku K= lux Klan leader, knew Strassmeir but has said he did not know McVeigh and= had nothing to do with the bombing. =0D Mahon said he did not believe the woman, who lived briefly at Elohim City= , was an informant. "I would be shocked to death if I found out she was.= " =0D McVeigh reportedly called Strassmeir at Elohim City on April 5, 1995, abo= ut two weeks before the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was bombed. =0D Mahon said he believes attention was focused on Strassmeir because of the= phone call and not because the woman tipped agents. =0D Strassmeir's attorney, Kirk Lyons, told the Tulsa World that his client h= ad been interviewed by phone in May by prosecutors and had been cleared. =0D Prosecutors declined comment about Strassmeir. =0D "We have received information that indicates that contrary to previous di= sclaimers, the government, in fact, pursued an investigation of Mr. Stras= smeir," Jones said. "We did not know the staus of Mr. Mahon." =0D Jones said he may seek an evidentiary hearing. =0D A year ago, Jones said he was pursuing foreign and neo-Nazi ties to the b= ombing. = =0D Mahon, an area organizer of the White Aryan Resistance, told the Tulsa Wo= rld he had talked with a McVeigh investigator but had not been interviewe= d by the FBI. He said agents did talk with his attorney. =0D Government spokeswoman Leesa Brown said Monday the government would have = no comment on Jones' claims. =0D ************************************************************** =0D --PART.BOUNDARY.0.517.emout20.mail.aol.com.854522373--